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It's all got very silly. The other evening we met up at a beach cafe with daughter and family (Watched the sun set and had an excelent pizza). So that was 6 of us, some friends of the grand children were also also there so how to you stop 8 abd 10 year olds from mingling particularly as they've spent all day together at school.

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47 minutes ago, PeterH said:

It's all got very silly. The other evening we met up at a beach cafe with daughter and family (Watched the sun set and had an excelent pizza). So that was 6 of us, some friends of the grand children were also also there so how to you stop 8 abd 10 year olds from mingling particularly as they've spent all day together at school.

Tell them they're at risk of bringing home a deadly disease that might kill their grandparents or other elderly people. It's the same over here. "Why do we have to wear facemasks?" "Why are the pubs shut?" "Why can't we go to parties?" and then, when people die, and the lockdowns begin again, it's: "why did no-one follow the rules?" Locally here, I've noticed that it's not the children at fault but the well-off middle-aged-to-young-elderly group who refuse to wear masks, wait for allocated tables, or observe the two metre rule, and they get so indignant when told off.

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47 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said:

 I've noticed that it's not the children at fault but the well-off middle-aged-to-young-elderly group who refuse to wear masks, wait for allocated tables, or observe the two metre rule, and they get so indignant when told off.

That's not just a Covid thing. That demographic are the ones who grew up under a political atmosphere of look-after-number-one, grab-what-you-'deserve', "greed is good" and the "you're worth it" culture. They were never taught to consider their responsibilities, just their "rights", all the old-fashioned ideas of community were gone and fairness only meant being fair to THEM, never them being fair to anyone else.

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2 minutes ago, NonMember said:

That's not just a Covid thing. That demographic are the ones who grew up under a political atmosphere of look-after-number-one, grab-what-you-'deserve', "greed is good" and the "you're worth it" culture. They were never taught to consider their responsibilities, just their "rights", all the old-fashioned ideas of community were gone and fairness only meant being fair to THEM, never them being fair to anyone else.

Maggies children....

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I'm sorry but my attitude has changed. 2 people I knew have recently died, both of similar age to me (69), one of a stoke the other a brain tumour. As you just don't know what life will throw at you if I want to do something, providing its not actually forbidden I am going to do it. I'll take precautions, face mask, hand sanitizer, 2 meters etc. But I'm not going to cocoon myself and loose another year. 70 next year so how many active energetic years do I have left to do all the thinks I want.

Sorry if this upsets anyone. It's my life and I intend to live it to the full and driving my Spitfire and Mini are part of it

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54 minutes ago, NonMember said:

That's not just a Covid thing. That demographic are the ones who grew up under a political atmosphere of look-after-number-one, grab-what-you-'deserve', "greed is good" and the "you're worth it" culture. They were never taught to consider their responsibilities, just their "rights", all the old-fashioned ideas of community were gone and fairness only meant being fair to THEM, never them being fair to anyone else.

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10 minutes ago, PeterH said:

I'm sorry but my attitude has changed. 2 people I knew have recently died, both of similar age to me (69), one of a stoke the other a brain tumour. As you just don't know what life will throw at you if I want to do something, providing its not actually forbidden I am going to do it. I'll take precautions, face mask, hand sanitizer, 2 meters etc. But I'm not going to cocoon myself and loose another year. 70 next year so how many active energetic years do I have left to do all the thinks I want.

Sorry if this upsets anyone. It's my life and I intend to live it to the full and driving my Spitfire and Mini are part of it

That seems quite reasonable. You are taking all the steps needed to protect others, you know the risks for you and accept them. My wife (70) is very much of the same position. The grim reaper has are details and will get round to calling on us all in his time, so make the best of it while you wait.

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33 minutes ago, PeterH said:

I'm sorry but my attitude has changed. 2 people I knew have recently died, both of similar age to me (69), one of a stoke the other a brain tumour. As you just don't know what life will throw at you if I want to do something, providing its not actually forbidden I am going to do it. I'll take precautions, face mask, hand sanitizer, 2 meters etc. But I'm not going to cocoon myself and loose another year. 70 next year so how many active energetic years do I have left to do all the thinks I want.

Sorry if this upsets anyone. It's my life and I intend to live it to the full and driving my Spitfire and Mini are part of it

Couldn't agree more Peter, having had a heart attack and having three spells in hospital last year..... Go for it, it's your family. Keep safe as you can.

Tony

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This is no joke! I had cancer 18 months ago, fully recovered now and am getting a bit peeved today my local club which has just reopened and is covid proof as can be.... is shutting again due to new restrictions in the north east. No socialising!

So pleased I have Plum. I agree with all above.

The wife is on f'book and says many believe it is all a hoax???. Can you belieeeeeeeve it :(

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Iain face masks aren’t that bad you do get a little puffed easier and steamed up glass’s.
We in Melbourne have been in some sort of lockdown since March and most working from home, but the second wave hit us around 2 months ago and we’ve been under Stage 4 disaster constraints for that period curfew at 8PM no more than 5klm from home essential shopping only, exercise 1hr walking etc only 1 hr per day and masks when ever outside your property. We haven’t visited the daughters grandkids since March their 30klm away still in metro Melb, the wife’s suffering from Light headness and anxiety so we had to go to the specialists for tests etc last week 3 outings so we got to drive along the bayside beachfront  3 days in a row very enjoyable, thought about taking the Sprint but would definitely been stopped by the police and it wasn’t worth trying to explain/justify, $1.5k fine if outside your postcode.

Were down to 28 new cases per day and have to get to 5 before returning to Stage 3. Country Vic has reduced conditions And can socialise again max 10 and restaurants open again BUT limited numbers and only eating outside and social distancing generally masks recommended. There’s a $5k fine if city folk caught trying to flee to the country even if they have a country property but if the farm is a business (ABN number) then your allowed I think? 
Re masks generally pretty good response except I laugh at those who when not in near distance of others drop it down under their nose for comfort there breathing Across all the external Contaminated area of the mask some people just don’t get it. City restaurants can do take away orders so people esp young liberated ladies go for their coffee fix mask on get outside stand around drop the mask and sup the coffee in the strip shopping centre walking area go figure that one out! If you say something the language can be colourful 

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3 hours ago, Iain T said:

The day I am told to wear a face mask just to walk down the street is the day I will rebel....

Masks aren't that bad. SWMBO is currently in Singapore, where the rule is a lot clearer than here - if you're outside your own home, you must wear a mask. This has been the case since before we went into lock-down and it's allowed them to reopen a lot of businesses far quicker than we have, but still keep much lower infection rates. And that despite the entire country being as densely populated as London.

I'm increasingly finding it really hard to understand why the British have such strong objections to masks.

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1 hour ago, NonMember said:

Masks aren't that bad. SWMBO is currently in Singapore, where the rule is a lot clearer than here - if you're outside your own home, you must wear a mask. This has been the case since before we went into lock-down and it's allowed them to reopen a lot of businesses far quicker than we have, but still keep much lower infection rates. And that despite the entire country being as densely populated as London.

I'm increasingly finding it really hard to understand why the British have such strong objections to masks.

We simply do not like being told what to do. Many countries are more compliant and follow rules without questioning. We have a healthy (maybe not here) approach to authority. Though that is changing.

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I believe Victorian Australia Covid woes have been reported in the UK the second wave is down to returning travelers being held in Hotel Quarantine by incompetent untrained and inexperienced Security Guards employed by sub-sub contractors. They took the quarantined travelers on shopping sprees for alcohol and take away meals, and then made whoopie with them, its reported 99% of our 2nd wave can be traced back to this quarantine failures. This process was managed by the state govt the federal govt had offered the use of the army (ADF) to manage the Hotel Quarantine process from day 1! It has taken us 8 weeks to get down from 700 plus new cases per day to around 30.

the following is a diddy sent round by one of TEG members hope it amuses you, it might make you laugh but us cry!. 

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