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10 hours ago, clive said:

We simply do not like being told what to do. Many countries are more compliant and follow rules without questioning. We have a healthy (maybe not here) approach to authority

I think that sums up the British psyche to a tee. Probably behind Brexit as well.

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We object to face masks, quarantines and other restrictions then complain that we're facing another lockdown in the coming weeks. Wonder why?

All of the cases here in Northern Ireland can be traced to a single woman from Southern Ireland who flew in to Dublin from Italy, then crossed the border and came up North. Every time they impose heavy restrictions down there a large part of the population comes up North where the restrictions are a lot lighter so that they can shop and socialise. During the Foot and Mouth epidemic - which only affected animals - they practically closed the border; now we've a potentially fatal disease spreading among humans and they won't even consider travel restrictions. Funny, that.

Incidentally did you know you can use old bras to make face masks? Just use the left side, otherwise if you go out you'll look like a right tit...

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15 hours ago, Iain T said:

 The day I am told to wear a face mask just to walk down the street is the day I will rebel....

Iain

Surely the point of the mask is that you not only protect yourself but you also protect others.

Luckily here I only have to wear a mask for rare and short times, like buying bread and the weekly shopping run. The most time spent wearing one is during the currently many medical visits for my wife.

Last week I took her to have an x ray, I dealt with all the paperwork and then was told I would have to wait outside, not in the waiting room. Luckily the weather was fine. What did make me smile was the fact that 3 nurses (mail & female) also came outside - to smoke.

Mask as protection against a possible killer, poison (in the form of tobacco) still freely on sale, yes we live in a strange world.

Don't get me wrong, I regularly try committing suicide by smoking a cigar and consuming drinks containing alcohol.

Saw something earlier today :

The missing link between apes and human beings is us.

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9 minutes ago, RogerH said:

The sad thing about masks is that nobody can show that they work on normal breathing action.

The mask may well stop large gobs of sticky stuff but not titchty witchy viruses - they really are quite small.

They are a feel good stunt.

Not true.

The virus is not "airborne", in the true sense of the word, when breathed out - it travels on water droplets. Masks are effective against them. This is proven, though far more in the sense of protecting others than protecting the wearer. But the direction is irrelevant - wearing masks does stop it spreading.

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I think I've hit a raw spot here! 

All I am saying is follow the government's advice re washing etc, I do wear a mask in shops and on the Tube but I object to potentially being told I have to wear a mask in an uncrowded street or park as in my evaluation the science just doesn't support it. 

In Redbridge, Newham and Ilford (areas close to me) the cases are increasing but because in those areas there are large multi generational, multi occupancy housing? I have a friend in an affluent area on the outskirts of London with large gardens and he said it was party village so this area is now a hot spot. The reasons for this spike are many fold but would be much less if people just used old fashioned common sense! 

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I wear a mask on the rare occasion i go into a shop, but i don't in the street unless there are a lot of people about. And i always carry a small bottle of hand sanitiser and wipes, am i being over the top? I don't think so. A lot of the problems lie with pub landlords and restaurants that try to cram as many people in as they can.... You can't eat or drink with a mask on....

Tony.   

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1 hour ago, poppyman said:

I wear a mask on the rare occasion i go into a shop, but i don't in the street

I have to, there are large signs on shop doors: "It is mandatory to wear face protection on these premises" so everyone ignores it but me.

Medical advice is to treat face masks as you would underwear, so I wear mine for three days then turn it inside out... 

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Wearing masks is questionable as far as I am concerned. It is a cheap way for the Gov't to try and get

everybody on side.

How many of you are taking Vit D3 and how much.

The NICE recommendation is 400IU/day - just enough to keep rickets at bay.

You need 1000 - 2000 IU/D to keep your D3 levels high enough for your immune system to fight whatever is out there.

The Gov't will not recommend D3 for unknown reasons.

If everybody took a 4000IU/D capsule the virus would disappear very quickly.

You can still contract the virus but the effects will be reduced, possibly no effects.

The cost = £10/person/year.

 

Roger

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Roger

I have a vit D squirt thing, a shot every morning, recommended by No.1 daughter. She recently had some tests and they remarked her vit D was almost as high as it could be. She's had the virus and is still suffering, I believe vit D is good for you, but I don't believe your claim.

12 minutes ago, RogerH said:

If everybody took a 4000IU/D capsule the virus would disappear very quickly.

You can still contract the virus but the effects will be reduced, possibly no effects.

Doug

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38 minutes ago, RogerH said:

Wearing masks is questionable as far as I am concerned. It is a cheap way for the Gov't to try and get

everybody on side.

How many of you are taking Vit D3 and how much.

The NICE recommendation is 400IU/day - just enough to keep rickets at bay.

You need 1000 - 2000 IU/D to keep your D3 levels high enough for your immune system to fight whatever is out there.

The Gov't will not recommend D3 for unknown reasons.

If everybody took a 4000IU/D capsule the virus would disappear very quickly.

You can still contract the virus but the effects will be reduced, possibly no effects.

The cost = £10/person/year.

 

Roger

What a lot of shite.

They walk amongst us.

Whoops, sorry I forgot this is the Joke Page.

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11 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said:

What medication?!!!! 😱😱😱😱😱

db

I am on quite a lot Doug, but it made me out of breath and oxygen levels went down. Specialist said what's different? Told him and when he checked there were lots of case's of it... I can pm you a list if you want in the morning.

Tony. 

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1 hour ago, dougbgt6 said:

Roger

I have a vit D squirt thing, a shot every morning, recommended by No.1 daughter. She recently had some tests and they remarked her vit D was almost as high as it could be. She's had the virus and is still suffering, I believe vit D is good for you, but I don't believe your claim.

Doug

Hi Doug,

 you have no need to believe me.

However you could Google the Spanish Cordoba University Hospital mini trial they did in early September - stunning evidence but a very small sample.   Only 76 candidates

Roger

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3 hours ago, RogerH said:

Hi Doug,

 you have no need to believe me.

However you could Google the Spanish Cordoba University Hospital mini trial they did in early September - stunning evidence but a very small sample.   Only 76 candidates

Roger

The Spaniards are the best.

Where is your information from? Sounds like RT?

Stunning Evidence & small sample = Oxymoron?

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9 hours ago, SpitFire6 said:

The Spaniards are the best.

Where is your information from? Sounds like RT?

Stunning Evidence & small sample = Oxymoron?

Why so critical - open your mind

Have a look here - Prof.Pete has spent many years investigating research papers on D3

https://u3asites.org.uk/files/b/berwyn/docs/covidd3article.pdf

 

Roger

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15 hours ago, RogerH said:

Wearing masks is questionable as far as I am concerned. It is a cheap way for the Gov't to try and get

everybody on side.

How many of you are taking Vit D3 and how much.

I eat cornflakes, doesn't that help? All those vitamins and minerals... but there's something in what you say: healthy people are less likely to die than those with underlying health conditions, or who are suffering from vitamin deficiency.

Re the masks: it may be a small step, but it's akin to asking people to donate aluminium saucepans during WW2, they felt they were doing something and a part of things. I'd rather have people on side and making an effort to stop the spread; maybe by wearing masks, they'll take other precautions too, and we'll get back to normal. I just wish they'd get it over with rather than this half-life that may drag on eternally because people who should be self-isolating can't be bothered to look after themselves, so the rest of us have to.

 

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