Paul H Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Is this fuel pipe layout correct ?, pic attached . If so will have to re reroute as converting to vertical dampers and with the current layout the rear bracket will foul the pipework Any info appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Hello Paul. That pipe route is incorrect and on a bad day could cause a problem. Basically it's a bodge and done not to incur any effort. The pipe should run under the body through to the fuel pump. I've just taken my Mk2 off the ramps so unable to photo and show you; however it will be back in the air again soon so can photograph and upload FYI and assistance. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Hello Paul. That pipe route is incorrect and on a bad day could cause a problem. Basically it's a bodge and done not to incur any effort. The pipe should run under the body through to the fuel pump. I've just taken my Mk2 off the ramps so unable to photo and show you; however it will be back in the air again soon so can photograph and upload FYI and assistance. Regards. Richard. Hi Richard - thanks for info . The fuel tank has to come out so I can bolt the the out riggers to the body - currently the rear tub is floating !! - I will then reroute the fuel pipe - any photos at a later date would be appreciated Best regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Okay Paul, will do - probably next weekend now. What's really odd is that it has no doubt taken longer to route the pipe that way than straight down the underside of the car !! Classics, you have to love them. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Hello Paul. As promised, here are the photos of the fuel pipe run from tank to pump. Basically the pipe run could not be simpler straight run and why the PO did that arduous route around the inner wheel arch one will never know !! The entire length of the pipe runs along the OUTER EDGE of the nearside main chassis member; of which where the outriggers connect there is a hole for the fuel pipe to continue its straight run. It should also be noted that this run is shared with the brake pipe T junction and the rear brakes. The fuel pipe then leaves the main chassis rail and curves up appearing by the fuel pump. The photos make sense of the whole layout and the pipe along with the brake pipe is clipped to the main chassis rail throughout its run. Hope the attached assists. Best wishes. Richard. PS: oh yes before anybody comments, the car is not being supported by the trolley jack; I just like to have it there whilst fully under the car even though the car is rock solid with the front on ramps and the rear end on stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Hi Richard , many thanks for the pics , just emptying the tank and will be removing then will reroute existing piping - Removing the tank will allow the rear outriggers to be bolted to the boot floor . Currently the rear tub is hanging in the air . I think this explains the creaks when cornering !!! All the best Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Hello Paul. As promised, here are the photos of the fuel pipe run from tank to pump. Basically the pipe run could not be simpler straight run and why the PO did that arduous route around the inner wheel arch one will never know !! The entire length of the pipe runs along the OUTER EDGE of the nearside main chassis member; of which where the outriggers connect there is a hole for the fuel pipe to continue its straight run. It should also be noted that this run is shared with the brake pipe T junction and the rear brakes. The fuel pipe then leaves the main chassis rail and curves up appearing by the fuel pump. The photos make sense of the whole layout and the pipe along with the brake pipe is clipped to the main chassis rail throughout its run. Hope the attached assists. Best wishes. Richard. PS: oh yes before anybody comments, the car is not being supported by the trolley jack; I just like to have it there whilst fully under the car even though the car is rock solid with the front on ramps and the rear end on stands. Hi Richard - the petrol pipe does run along the main chassis along side the brake pipe - plan to keep this line then up and over the rear drive following contours of body shell - Does the pipe go behind or in front of the rear damper support - see pic . I hope ive explained this ok Best regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hello Paul. From your edited picture I do not think that is the route. From memory, and of course I will check again for you, the pipe stays pretty much horizontal on leaving the fuel tank throughout its run. If that is the case then it will route behind the shock absorber which I know you will be fitting. Additionally your edited route would be counter productive to flow, as the bottom of the fuel tank is lower and also closer to the rear chassis leg hence the reasoning for the pipework to run horizontally. I will check all that for you on Sunday if that's okay ?? Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hello Paul. From your edited picture I do not think that is the route. From memory, and of course I will check again for you, the pipe stays pretty much horizontal on leaving the fuel tank throughout its run. If that is the case then it will route behind the shock absorber which I know you will be fitting. Additionally your edited route would be counter productive to flow, as the bottom of the fuel tank is lower and also closer to the rear chassis leg hence the reasoning for the pipework to run horizontally. I will check all that for you on Sunday if that's okay ?? Regards. Richard. Hi Richard , many thanks for your input. Plenty of jobs being done including new shock absorbers so whenever is convenient . If I could ask one further favour ? The rear outriggers are currently not bolted to the chassis , so need to do this. The easiest way is to drill through the boot floor ( near the rear light cluster) then through the chassis with the fixing nut on the underside of the chassis . There are 2 fixing points and looking for a pic of the bolt positions when looking in the boot , the easiest one with access being the offside. Best regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hello Paul. Okay, no problem. In fact I can send the inside the boot / bolt set-up to you tomorrow; once I have taken those photos. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Evening Paul. Please see the attached 7x photos which will hopefully assist and have managed to take the nearside and offside twin mountings. Sorry I could not get them to you this afternoon, just ran out of time. If you need extra or clearer photos, please let me know. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Evening Paul. Please see the attached 7x photos which will hopefully assist and have managed to take the nearside and offside twin mountings. Sorry I could not get them to you this afternoon, just ran out of time. If you need extra or clearer photos, please let me know. Regards. Richard. HI Richard , thanks very much for the pics, just what I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 as far as any spacers goes use a rubber /canvass mix washer, dont worry about how many use one rubber against the body and any amount of metal washer spacers to make a good fitting packing many wonky old bodies can take some very large packers to align with the chassis or some none at all its very variable pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hello Pete. Am I right in thinking that the chassis is pre-drilled with a thread or is a captivated nut within the chassis box ?? Additionally, would you advocate rubber washer against the body surface AND against the chassis member with the metal "take-up" washers located between the two rubber washers ?? All the best. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 With the petrol tank out and the rear brackets for the telescopic dampers in place the space between the boot floor and the rear out riggers is now currently approx 5 mm so i can feel the 2 outrigger nut recesses and in turn match up where i have to drill the boot floor . Im assuming the outriggers have a captive nut ? What size bolt do I need to bolt through the boot floor ? The boot floor has never been drilled though the recesses in the pic of the nearside boot floor more or less line up with the nut recesses in the out rigger - I will probably have to drill a larger hole in the boot floor then fill with a large washer Really appreciate the help so far Best regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 most body bolts are 5/16"X24unf torque 10-14lbft there are a few other sizes elsewhere generally only one rubber , more than that can make the joint too soft , the rubbers dont decouple much in the way of noise more a cushioned buttoning up but needs to be secure enough to stop too much body shuffle on the chassis captive nuts are normal, if sheared or stripped then a long through bolt seems a fix but dont crush the rails on many you can get inside and use a decent washer and nut with fiddle fingers !! Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hello Paul. Got a spare slot this morning so took the photos you requested. I stand corrected, the pipe does go up & over the side member and then down to the main chassis pretty much where the brake pipe T piece is; which I think is evident from the first set of smudges I sent you. I think the photos explain all and hope they assist ?? Hopefully I have managed to get them the correct way for viewing; I've just started Windows 10 so still getting to grips with ALL its peculiarities and there are a few !! Give me Windows 8 any day. Best wishes. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hello Paul. Got a spare slot this morning so took the photos you requested. I stand corrected, the pipe does go up & over the side member and then down to the main chassis pretty much where the brake pipe T piece is; which I think is evident from the first set of smudges I sent you. I think the photos explain all and hope they assist ?? Hopefully I have managed to get them the correct way for viewing; I've just started Windows 10 so still getting to grips with ALL its peculiarities and there are a few !! Give me Windows 8 any day. Best wishes. Richard. Hi Richard - Many thanks for the pics - I now understand the route to take Best regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted November 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Many thanks to Richard & Pete - the rear bolts are now fitted and secure the boot floor to the rear chassis legs - I was able to jack the boot floor up enough to locate the location holes in the chassis legs , then drill through the boot floor - The boot floor had never been drilled ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Yours must be unique, many have the holes and no floor pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 hello Richard, just to let you know that the pictures you took of the fuel pipe route for Paul have also just helped me with my car, so thank you very much. best wishes, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 hello everyone, just to let you all know that i put fuel tank in place then noticed i haven't tightened nuts on rear lights. Now i can't do them up so out comes the tank again. i wish i knew what i was doing. can't wait to start on the electrics. Should be loads of fun. Regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Hello Rob. My pleasure. Good luck. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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