Pete Lewis Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 dosnt pay to loose sleep...on reflection but i reckon your last pic has them the right way up Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted July 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 dosnt pay to loose sleep...on reflection but i reckon your last pic has them the right way up Pete That makes sense as thats how they were fitted so I marked them T for top , at least Turners got that right Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted July 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Im now beginning to doubt the grey matter, about twin arm floats..... which way up, everywhere you look its got the two chances rivet plate on top or under this seriously alters the fueling levels and valve reliability from memory the float sits in the fuel at an angle, ie what looks right ...... is wrong so turn it over !!! having searched around through all my manuals and online this delicate bit of information seems very mixed later spec stroms have a float level of 16-17mm but as for which way the answers seem 50/50 GRRRrrrrrrrr !!! Pete Hi Pete - Ive reset the float level , see pic , just checking ive done this correct - I placed a steel rule on top of the float and measured from the ruler underside to the carb base and current measurement says 16.66mm When I bought my Vitesse the carbs were CDSE though not set up for Vitesse and were totally shot - Throttle spindles totally knackered - Just salvaged the float bowls which are a better fit + have a more pronounced raised rim all the way round - I guess I will have to get used to the fact they are not shiny !!!! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 I spotted the "T" for top, try and keep up Pete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 yes Doug ........but the carb is upside down and next time you need a head taking you can .......................!!!! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul H Posted July 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Progress , engine is running though a little lumpy while getting hot , choke out and it's fine and running at 2000 revs , start putting in the choke too soon and rear carb "farts" and fuel mist comes out of intake ( no filters on yet ) . What does this mean ? Apologies for the description Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 sounds like its far too lean ,, wind the jet down alt least two full turns from level with the top of the holder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted July 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 sounds like its far too lean ,, wind the jet down alt least two full turns from level with the top of the holder Thanks Pete , you were right, ticking over now with no choke now at 1000 revs , flick accelerator and no 'coughing' . Best regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 good , thats another one running keep at it it does all come together .....one day edit senior moments prevail, youre on cdse so its up the needle not down the jet Ooops but its worked sorry for a bum steer Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Bottom adjustable, adjust with a penny, top adjustable, use the special tool, only £27.74 from the Ripoff Brothers. But advice the same, wind to the top and then two turns back. So Pete's right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 do i get a badge or house point where's them slippers , its pouring again and we should be at Revs and Rythms having a bop or whatever with a curry or F &C but its not looking good right now wet grass , wet shoes , wheres the tractor ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted July 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 I think green shield stamps would be in order , if I had any On another note , a neighbour heard the vitesse running and came across and mentioned he has a 1969 spitfire ( MK 3 ?? ) in his garage , been there for 5 years and it needs to be moved and probably for sale . I volunteered to help him to get it started , I think I've learnt quite a lot over the last year so should be able to assist. Currently the battery is on charge in my garage and looking to start the spitfire next weekend . The spitfire belongs to the neighbour's daughter who lives in New Zealand and the garage space is now required My list follows and not in any order, and some checks might not be necessary ie carb strip down Check plugs, clean and gap Remove air filters ensure pistons rise and fall , check diaphragm , remove float bowl, check needle valve , check float for holes, check damper oil level Check , clean distributor , rotor arm, points, plug leads Once engine has turned over, ensure there is a spark , ensure fuel is being delivered. Use carb start with the piston raised . The car was driven in so basic setup should be ok Have I missed anything ? If the spit is for sale , is anybody looking for a project ? Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted July 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 I think green shield stamps would be in order , if I had any On another note , a neighbour heard the vitesse running and came across and mentioned he has a 1969 spitfire ( MK 3 ?? ) in his garage , been there for 5 years and it needs to be moved and probably for sale . I volunteered to help him to get it started , I think I've learnt quite a lot over the last year so should be able to assist. Currently the battery is on charge in my garage and looking to start the spitfire next weekend . The spitfire belongs to the neighbour's daughter who lives in New Zealand and the garage space is now required My list follows and not in any order, and some checks might not be necessary ie carb strip down Check plugs, clean and gap Remove air filters ensure pistons rise and fall , check diaphragm , remove float bowl, check needle valve , check float for holes, check damper oil level Check , clean distributor , rotor arm, points, plug leads Once engine has turned over, ensure there is a spark , ensure fuel is being delivered. Use carb start with the piston raised .have some fresh petrol available The car was driven in so basic setup should be ok Have I missed anything ? If the spit is for sale , is anybody looking for a project ? Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 The fuel in the tank may not be viable, modern fuel isn't the same as good old 5 star. I've heard of people unable to start after winter lay off. Having said that we managed to get a Vitesse with 18 month old fuel started recently. Similarly the oil might not be in good condition and have some water content after 5 years worth of condensation. But I would be inclined to just give it a go and see if it fires before you start stripping things down. If you do decide to check and clean everything add a compression test to your list. Also a can of Easystart aerosol will make it fire if there's spark and the timing's right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Hello Paul. If the engine has not turned over for about 5yrs I would be careful about any pistion rings sticking to the bore(s). Should that be the case the sudden turning of the engine via the starter motor can in some cases (I've experienced it) cause a ring to snap. It will be a good idea, if you have any, to give each bore a small shot of Redex. Failing that a squirt of WD40 or 3-in-1 oil about 12hrs before turning the engine over. If you take this route my initial turning over of the engine would be with a ring spanner or similar on the crankshaft pulley nut, this will ease the pistion movement gently and should there be any of the rings be stuck this will be a far gentler way of freeing them from their slumber. It's a faff, but it may pay dividends by preventing a snapped ring if that situation is lurking. Do not try and turn it via the water pump. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Good and careful advise and worth doing, but I would be surprised if you broke a ring after 5 years. If you did I would suspect something else wrong and more problems to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted July 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Took the Vitesse for its MOT today passed no advisories though headlights were too high so they adjusted them there and then When I switched off the engine ran on for a second or so - what is this a sign of ?? Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Mixture and/or timing most likely. Running rich would do it. But there could be other causes, such as decoke required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 then add too fast idle speed, low grade fuel, retarded, spark plug spec, some do this and you can fit an anti run on valve that opens when you switch off, think some late GT6 had these in the manifold Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Retarded? You talkin to me?!! I got a late GT6, but no valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 have you looked in the mirror lately !!!! just looked it up the valve was on usa spec cars GT6 and TR 6 https://www.canleyclassics.com/demoapp/?ptno=12H4295 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 have you looked in the mirror lately !!!! just looked it up the valve was on usa spec cars GT6 and TR 6 https://www.canleyclassics.com/demoapp/?ptno=12H4295 NLA at Canleys ? http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/anti-run-on-valve-stn127z.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 wow £75 many cars used these things its not unique to triumphs 'was on' was just that.......... was on Ha Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Something was mentioned on another thread about run on caused by electrical feedback from a fan if I remember right have you fitted an electric fan lately? Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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