Barry Kemp Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I purchased a pair of Polybushes to replace the worn bushes that fit in to the rear spring eye /vertical link. The bushes themselves were easy enough to fit since they were the soft, blue "comfort" version. However having spent hours trying to fit the metal sleeve -which then distorts (stretches) the bush I phoned the supplier to be told the sleeves aren't required. This was rather annoying given the time spent trying to fit them. One thing occurs to me - without the metal sleeve the bush is a very loose fit around bolt , surely this will result in rapid wear - particularly given that the bushes are so soft? Stupidly I can't recall if the original rubber bush included a sleeve. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I fitted spring eye poly bushes to a Mk1 Vitesse last winter and it certainly had a metal tube for the bolt, bushes were superflex. Biggest problem was removing the outer metal sleeve from the old bush from the spring eye. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Barry. Paul is spot-on the bushes should have a metal sleeve and as you rightly say without them the bush will be history very soon. I have attached the Polybush link and part 33A refers - I do not know what Spitfire you have but have gone for a 1500 as I assume all spring eyes have a metal sleeve when it comes to transverse springs. You can clearly see that each bush comes with a sleeve and I doubt very much that the colour of a Polybush will mean no sleeve required !! http://www.polybush.co.uk/shop/triumph/spitfire-1500?attr=2|1977 The photo also confirms the sleeve requirement. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Kemp Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Thanks Paul & Richard, So - I now realise something that i wondered about when I first stripped out the old bush, there is an additional metal sleeve in the spring eye. I feel pretty stupid now! I was fitting the polybush (and inner sleeve) into this- which would explain why the new bush won't fit with an inner sleeve. I got the impression that the supplier had heard before that the new bushes don't fit - but perhaps (like me) wasn't aware that the outer sleeve needs to be removed first. Paul - any tips on removing the outer sleeve, it looks pretty solid? Photo attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Barry. Do not be harsh on yourself, you will not be the first and certainly not the last. With regard to removal, you could try a hacksaw. Unclip the blade from the handle, insert blade, reconnect and start sawing - a top & bottom cut should suffice and you can then tap the sleeve out. Alternatively if he spring is off the car, get the local garage to press them out - a tin of biscuits always goes down well as a thank you !! Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Got the Tshirt on this one . I think I used a lot of WD40 and pushed out the sleeve with a socket using the bench vice . Balancing the spring was a little difficult. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Richards idea is how I remove stuborn bushes , they are just mild steel and cut easily then with two cuts they just fall out Only takes a few minutes and the spring is in the vice , as paul say pressing needs a strong arm and a some faffing about to align the spring , socket , vice and tea cup If the spring is still on the car then a junior hacksaw will fit ok inside the wheel arch to saw the sleeve Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Barry, Don't beat yourself up, I did exactly the same. It was so tight I couldn't figure it was a removable item. I had exactly the same advice. Careful hacksaw and lever cut with driver or chisel. Came out a treat thanks to the forum gurus! I have to say I've got many T shirts as I am a mechanical novice. But the forum is very kind. Don't be scared to ask, you can only be ridiculed! Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 No numpty Tee shirts only ones with we can all earn something everyday Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Kemp Posted March 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 You're all so kind! I've spoken to the supplier of the bushes and they've agreed to make sure that their salesman/advisors inform people that the outer sleeves need to be removed and that the inner sleeves must always be fitted. Hopefully no one else will make the same mistake now. Right....next job on the list! Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Glad you got it sorted, no question is daft to the person asking it l would say anyone making fun of it has a problem. Keep asking that's how you learn. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Barry, I've had my share of "T shirt required" mistakes. I never take the micky out of anyone. Except Pete Lewis, obviously. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 trouble is as the years roll by the shirts no longer fit especially Dougs Ha ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: trouble is as the years roll by the shirts no longer fit especially Dougs Ha ! Yes I have the same problem, we must be using the same wash cycle that makes them shrink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mine still fit! Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mine still fit! Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Once was bad enough but twice?. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Is x certificate allowed on the forum and in stereo, Call samaritans I need more medication after seeing double grosse Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Due to my incompetence I posted this is another place. I’ve used one of these kits for getting the bushes out (and in) of my old Land Rover. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/27Pcs-Pull-and-Press-Sleeve-Tool-Kit-Set-Seal-Bearing-Cars-LCV-Bush-Removal-Tool-/173054321745 Works a treat. I actually borrowed it from a friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Ina vain attempt to keep it on topic I’ll not mention ironing and woks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Not the Quasimodo joke??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 No its just the Bells !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Not a whiskey fan, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 is that a Grouse ? or just bushing the conversation ?? drift drift and more drift Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Get the snow blower out! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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