Anglefire Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Following on from the thread about the 4 pot brakes, I have been considering mine. I have replaced the complete brakes last year - master cylinder, lines, flex's and calipers and cylinders. Complete with new pads/shoes obviously. And its in the pads/shoe department where I think and improvement can be made. The material of choice seems to be Mintex 1155 (I think?) - so where should I get some from and what should I expect to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Mintex 1155s, you will not be disappointed! £60 from the club shop but possibly cheaper else where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 The club shop only has 1144 for type 14 calipers. Are these the right ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 And I can't find any on the Mintex site - except the standard ones (If I read it right!) MGB533 is their reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 1144 maybe better on road, 1155,and then onto 1166 are progressively "faster" pads.see these DT links for explanation (in simple terms!) https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/brake-pads/mintex-m1144-performance-brake-pads https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/brake-pads/mintex-m1155-performance-brake-pads https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mintex-MGB533-M1144-Caterham-Roadsport-or-Tracksport-Racing-Front-Brake-Pads-/152656702465 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB533-M1155-MINTEX-Brake-Pad-Set-disc-brake-front/302183781540?epid=1351210602&hash=item465b8e94a4:g:~AMAAOSwqSVZtT7a seem to be best prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Thanks Clive ooh I think the 1144 will suit me best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 12 hours ago, Anglefire said: I have replaced the complete brakes last year - master cylinder, lines, flex's and calipers and cylinders. Complete with new pads/shoes obviously. And its in the pads/shoe department where I think and improvement can be made. What improvement do you need - are you getting fade, or just poor braking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 No not getting fade - they just lack a bit. But they are improving with use - to be fair I’m not a heavy braker really so are bedding in more slowly than I’d perhaps like. Might just need a couple of good stops to sort them out. On the other hand a better compound might help. I’m also used to modern brakes - my bmw has massive disks and stops with little effort - I’m not expecting anything like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 club shop sell mintex 1144 pads at £66 for type 16 and 16 metric at £60 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Sorry, I meant 1144 dyslexia rules KO. Db 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 its those cheap waitrose tea bags aldi ones have less effect who is this ??? where am I Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 17 hours ago, Anglefire said: Following on from the thread about the 4 pot brakes, I have been considering mine. I have replaced the complete brakes last year - master cylinder, lines, flex's and calipers and cylinders. Complete with new pads/shoes obviously. And its in the pads/shoe department where I think and improvement can be made. The material of choice seems to be Mintex 1155 (I think?) - so where should I get some from and what should I expect to pay. Hello Mark I had a search on fleabay and found some NOS with the stuff in they can not put in now! I have a set of EBC DP2114 the green stuff that the club sold if you want them? As I have a spare set of mintex MGB 533,s I picked up cheap! Roger Ps I have just found another set! Unipart S 350 AO on the box and M108GHI NTX51C & M108GHI NTX51B on the pads 2 of each Plus the Asbestos label in the box and they have the Girling symbol on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, rogerguzzi said: Hello Mark I had a search on fleabay and found some NOS with the stuff in they can not put in now! Plus the Asbestos label in the box and they have the Girling symbol on them! No no no no and no! You'll be polluting pedestrians as you drive past. We can't have that! Better to use Pete's Aldi teabags. I remember a few years back that C&E (The Customs people, not C of E) seized a batch of counterfeit brake pads made from compressed grass. Unfortunately no doubt someone has since looked at them, decided they're a: organic, b: biodegradable and c: non toxic so no doubt they'll be the norm in a few years. Who cares if they don't actually stop the car? We'll all just have to drive more slowly... BTW remember, Mark, if you go for some of the more 'exotic' pads they also take ages to bed in, unless you're a boy racer. Sadly, I've just checked the Net via a Bing search and found 24 entries on brake pads, 21 of which are for bicycles. Of the actual car sites, one was the RAC who mention 'organic' brake pads. Oh Lord they're here already! We're done for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: No no no no and no! You'll be polluting pedestrians as you drive past. We can't have that! Better to use Pete's Aldi teabags. I remember a few years back that C&E (The Customs people, not C of E) seized a batch of counterfeit brake pads made from compressed grass. Unfortunately no doubt someone has since looked at them, decided they're a: organic, b: biodegradable and c: non toxic so no doubt they'll be the norm in a few years. Who cares if they don't actually stop the car? We'll all just have to drive more slowly... BTW remember, Mark, if you go for some of the more 'exotic' pads they also take ages to bed in, unless you're a boy racer. Sadly, I've just checked the Net via a Bing search and found 24 entries on brake pads, 21 of which are for bicycles. Of the actual car sites, one was the RAC who mention 'organic' brake pads. Oh Lord they're here already! We're done for! Hello Colin Ha Ha so I scrap the diesel car do not light the log burner ban ALL plastic bottles Etc,etc I feels like standing in the sea and having a P**s to warm it up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 hours ago, rogerguzzi said: Hello Mark I had a search on fleabay and found some NOS with the stuff in they can not put in now! I have a set of EBC DP2114 the green stuff that the club sold if you want them? As I have a spare set of mintex MGB 533,s I picked up cheap! Roger Thanks Roger, I’m ok for the pads - I might see how I’ve got go as I drive for a bit - they might improve some more - but if not I’ll go for the Mintex ones. I did see some yesterday for about £39 delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Roger is that sample in a bottle or out the bottle ? I had added type 16s to the 1600 (was 12s) gt6 discs with a servo and 1144 pads , had to add a high level brake light as it would outbrake many moderns if used with a vengence it could make some serious impressive sharp stops owing to plonkers thinking an old cars go slowly, , and without ripping the suspension of the chassis if you get pad clatter get some anti squeal shims with the end loaded spring , and pads with the correct pin hole size to suit your caliper era. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 2009 Bedding M-Compounds.doc2009 Bedding M-Compounds.doc there is a plan for bedding in mintex pads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Not sure I want to do 70 let alone 90 in my Spitfire ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Mark, Now it's you confusing 1144s and 1155s! It's only 90 to 30 for 1155s 1144s are 70 to 30, although I know what you mean, 40 in my car feels like 70! Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just use a sensible fast speed and haul it down a 20mph you have to make them work and get fully heated never bringbto a stop Or the hot resin will get stuck on the disc its no use tickilng the things it needs some hard braking without being abusively agressive Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Mark, Now it's you confusing 1144s and 1155s! It's only 90 to 30 for 1155s 1144s are 70 to 30, although I know what you mean, 40 in my car feels like 70! Doug I was sat in a car park In Huddersfield having my lunch when I read that and missed completely the compounds ? don’t think I’ve been above 50 yet. Though I might have got to 60 ? Just use a sensible fast speed and haul it down a 20mph you have to make them work and get fully heated never bringbto a stop Or the hot resin will get stuck on the disc its no use tickilng the things it needs some hard braking without being abusively agressive Pete Thanks Pete that makes logical sense! Aught to do that with the current pads! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 It will certainly wake up old surfaces If it smells well thats a good sign , if they smoke youve burnt the baby Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 What about rear shoes? Or are they used so little in normal use that the standard ones are ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Mark, Well, I have mentioned this before, late GT6 mke3 (mine) has wider drums, shoes and bigger cylinders and the servo only works on the front. Earlier GT6s had servo as an extra and it worked on all 4 wheels. I've tried connecting my servo to all 4 wheels and it makes the braking..............odd, unbalanced. So I guess you got to be careful not to make the rear too good. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted March 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I should have said early on mines a Spitfire 1500. So no servo, just me and me leg muscle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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