Paul H Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, AidanT said: Well missed out on one I was looking for but I'm sure there will be others. Can I ask you all a question. What price range should I be really looking at ? Aidan Suppose I should put a parts wanted request in! I thought the £116 was a fair price , the other engine is currently £82 auction ending this evening . Prices are moving 10 % plus each year now so placing an ad with TSSC is the way to go . That’s how I found my spare engine . 2 Vitesse / Herald doors went for £200 on eBay today and they needed work Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Aidan. Is this "out-in-all weather conditions" engine unit really the way forward for your quest ?? I have to say if it went for £50 I doubt I'd touch it. As with all these things it is a waiting game, BUT the correct unit will turn up in due course. Paul's suggestion on a wanted ad is certainly a sound idea - not everybody deals on EBay and another TSSC member may well have what you are looking for. Purely my opinion and looking at it from a practical point of view. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, classiclife said: Aidan. Is this "out-in-all weather conditions" engine unit really the way forward for your quest ?? I have to say if it went for £50 I doubt I'd touch it. As with all these things it is a waiting game, BUT the correct unit will turn up in due course. Paul's suggestion on a wanted ad is certainly a sound idea - not everybody deals on EBay and another TSSC member may well have what you are looking for. Purely my opinion and looking at it from a practical point of view. Regards. Richard. 1 minute ago, classiclife said: Aidan. Is this "out-in-all weather conditions" engine unit really the way forward for your quest ?? I have to say if it went for £50 I doubt I'd touch it. As with all these things it is a waiting game, BUT the correct unit will turn up in due course. Paul's suggestion on a wanted ad is certainly a sound idea - not everybody deals on EBay and another TSSC member may well have what you are looking for. Purely my opinion and looking at it from a practical point of view. Regards. Richard. Hi Richard., the out in all weather is currently £82 , the £116 is a mk2 Vitesse and looked after, no carbs dizzy Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Sorry Paul, the point I am making is that if the current £82 engine was a buy it now for £50 or less, I'd personally give it a miss no matter what the price. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 As the 82 pound one I'd a mk3 it would not fit what I am looking for an I agree if wouldn't be worth more than 50 I will put an item in the wanted list to see if anyone has a spare sitting around Found that shipping from anywhere in England is around £50 and o don't think that's too bad Might try some trusted scrappies to Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 The trouble with any engines in store, especially outside is some bores are going to be open to atmosphere if the carb /exhaust is not plugged then natual breathing can make bores with valves open will attract mr rusty. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hi Pete. I have a spare mk2 vitesse engine in my workshop which i plan to rebuild at some time. Should i remove the plugs and fill with oil ? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 well its not a bad idea , a good eggcup full and turn it over a couple of times will keep the shiny bits oiled if the manifolds are off then a spray down the ports to oily up the valve stems cant be a bad thing Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzerman Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hi all I had a 1500 engine which I stored in garage for 20+ years, regularly squirted engine oil down the bores. Fitted in my spitfire 4 years ago, it has run like a dream ever since! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagerbeaver Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 According to the paperwork, my car was fitted with a "new block retaining original pistons/crankshaft" in 1981 but the pistons are domed in an early GT6. I suspect it's a cobbled up engine. How can I tell if the right bits have been used? i.e. late block and head with the domed pistons I know I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 the only change to the block was adding a recess to support the gasket fire rings , the HG will have a small tab sticking out the back of the head to identify as recessed. so the block wont have any effect on flat top shallow head / domed top deep head so long as you dont have domed and shallow head mixed up. , gives far too high comp ratio, thats assuming the domes dont wack the shallow chamber i dont know about that idea. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagerbeaver Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Many thanks. It's some time since I had the head off and can't remember if there was any recess for the gasket but I've suspected I have a low compression ratio. Even though the engine has good compression, the engine spins over very fast compared to others I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 just look down behind the rocker cover at the gasket seam , if theres a small rectangular tab showing its got recessed bores if its not then its a flat faced block , it cant have the wrong gasket as that wont get you off the drive without serious leaking coolant if you measure the depth of the head (outside thickness) we can confirm what you have plus any casting numbers may help . Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Anyone still looking ?? This may be of interest: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-GT6-engine-Vitesse-Spitfire-Bond-2000-TR5-TR6-cylinder-head-516816/112926212593?hash=item1a4aed41f1:g:TXQAAOSwvLZayzDl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 KE 858 makes it a very early GT6 MkIII engine. Don't know where the TR5/6 comes into it. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Oddly enough John, I'm seeing this chap tomorrow to collect an item. I may enquire further about the engine; seems a decent chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Seems an odd engine. Has the 516816 head, which is a deep, 2.5 head and with the flat top pistons would give 7:1 CR in a 2 litre. Other options would be the engine has been stroked, checking the sump for extra clearance bulges could add to that theory. Or it could have been heavily skimmed to bring CR up to something sensible. The head was originally 3.4" deep. John, that engine, if a 2 litre, could easily become a 2.5 suitable for TR5/6. Just a crank and piston swap....maybe cam, depending on what is in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 I did see it but I'm hopefully all sorted now (keeping fingers crossed) Just waiting for the supplier to call me back Did you see the early KC GT6 engine? It went for only 67 pounds I guess it would have been suitable for my mk1 but from what was said above I decided best to stay away. Maybe the price it sold for represents that Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Looks like an early GT6 Mk3 engine which is the same as the Mk2. However, as Clive said it does have a 2.5 PI head. As far as I know these engines could not be stroked out to 2.5. Only the later GT6 engines, KE10001 on, which had a common block with the 2.5. Maybe the head has been skimmed? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Visited the chap this morning and had a look at the engine, seems very tidy and he did have it in his old GT6 but then went for another engine to replace this in order to race the car. He does not know much about it , regarding being stroked or head skim but does say it runs very nicely and goes very well. IIRC he got it from someone via the TSSC. He did say the head is 3.4 Decent chap, very enthusiastic about Triumphs and an ex-TSSC member. Family commitments has meant giving up the car for bikes, tents and other mundane items !! Where does this engine rank with regard to potential 6cyl engine swaps ?? Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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