68vitesse Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Anyone got an idea what temperature the air filter box gets to on a Vitesse, the seal has degraded. Available from the usual suspects, but when I bought a new cooling system overflow bottle found the top deformed as plastic was not same specification as old one. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Never seems to get too hot to touch, so I would guess 60 degrees? Most seals will cope with boiling water (or should!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 the good news is that any air getting in still has to pass through the filters👍 Think the cap to the overflow bottle was originally aluminium.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, johny said: Think the cap to the overflow bottle was originally aluminium.... Yes, and the new one I bought from Paddocks last year was also aluminium. However, the bottle itself is plastic and the new ones on the market are not very well moulded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 if you have some in the cupboard i would reckon a self adhesive rubber draft excluder would suit as easy available, not the sponge type pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted January 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 By top meant the sholder of the plastic bottle, got hot enough to sag, probably standard repro product. Thanks for the replies. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 That is surprising! Mines a repro and been fine but then it never gets hot enough to deform - did you have a major engine overheating incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 The original Overflow bottles were indeed plastic, probably made of Polyurethane, and the top was aluminium. It may be worth looking around an autojumble and cleaning up a second hand one. If you have a tubular exhaust manifold this may cause heat problems. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Yes, My original's been through the dishwasher to clean it up, the dishwasher runs quite hot, but no distortion to the bottle. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Some dishwashers are 'self-heating' by electric elements inside, like an electric kettle. Could yours have got a bit near one of those, Paul? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 How did it come up Doug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Johny, It came out very well, degreased, de-stained and as flexible as it was before. Also did the windscreen washer bottle, made of the same stuff. John, My dishwasher is cold fill only so obviously has heating elements, innards get pretty hot, open the door half way through and instant facial steam up, quite invigorating. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) My bottle is "down on dirty", though I prefer this. Shows the car has a life/had a life. (and not just because, I really can't be be bothered to detail the engine bay anyway). I find "show queens" a bit boring with often no story, since they became queens. Just personal preferences I guess which good, as gives diversity. If every car was like mine, then that would be a bit boring. Dave Edited January 11, 2019 by daverclasper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 if its real dirty like mine was you cant see the level☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Dave, Who you callin a Queen?!! 🤴 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 On 10/01/2019 at 10:05, 68vitesse said: Anyone got an idea what temperature the air filter box gets to on a Vitesse, the seal has degraded. Available from the usual suspects, but when I bought a new cooling system overflow bottle found the top deformed as plastic was not same specification as old one. Regards Paul I'm a bit mystified by the wording of the original post; I assumed it was the air filter box seal that had gone, but we seem to have ended up with overflow bottle caps, and I'm trying to work out the link / cause? Anyway like Doug I put my bottle(s) through the dishwasher, they came out the same stained yellow colour but slightly cleaner. It appears the only solution is a new one, which ends up the same dirty yellowy-brown within a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Think Paul had the audacity to introduced the two items in his original post😲 Unfortunately we dont seem to have had any comments on mine, Dave's or John's suggested causes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Colin, It's called thread drift. This site suffers badly from it, the culprits should be weeded out! Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I thought at one point it was the heat from the air filters that had warped the overflow bottle, but I think now he means that the modern day replacement seals, as in the overflow bottle top, are not as good as the originals. Yes? BTW anyone seen snow yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I believe Mr Lewis is on standby with his blower. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: I thought at one point it was the heat from the air filters that had warped the overflow bottle, but I think now he means that the modern day replacement seals, as in the overflow bottle top, are not as good as the originals. Yes? BTW anyone seen snow yet? Yes, top of the bottle not bottle top, as in my original post, picture shows damage. Cause, probably "quality" of repro parts as not had an overheating problem even in the very hot weather last summer. Standard cast manifold. Only snow I've seen has been on Christmas cards if I'm still able to call the recent festival that. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, dougbgt6 said: I believe Mr Lewis is on standby with his blower. db A Rootes Blower no doubt. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Do you use the same equipment for blowing roots, leaves and snow?. Regards Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, 68vitesse said: Yes, top of the bottle not bottle top, as in my original post, picture shows damage. Cause, probably "quality" of repro parts as not had an overheating problem even in the very hot weather last summer. Standard cast manifold. Only snow I've seen has been on Christmas cards if I'm still able to call the recent festival that. Regards Paul Thanks Paul, gotya now. Last time I saw that sort of thing was a petrol tank where the breather had failed and the pump sucked it almost completely flat; I trust that's not the case with this? The grommet at the top has to let air back in as the engine sucks the water back again; possibly if the bottle was hot and thereby softened it may distort like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 My original cap has a small hole in it next to the grommet hole to do as you say Colin. Maybe the repros dont have this and just possibly the grommet seals well enough to allow a vacuum to be pulled on engine cooling..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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