Pete Lewis Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 why are indicators on modern cars and some trucks the size of an end on match box, stupid silly small invisible led glow worms hidden under bright daylight running lamps. there used to be a construction and use min area for side and indicator lenses it seems have disappeared and become a stylist law not is it really useful law . and dont get me on the prats that indicate left and then drive around the roundabout . you could think they are turning off...but no 3 junctions later what dick brain teaches them to do it ,its ind right going round and only indicate left when you get to your turn, is this difficult then ??????? pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 And there was me thinking they where taught not to use indicators at all. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, 68vitesse said: And there was me thinking they where taught not to use indicators at all. Regards Paul That is only BMW drivers .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Most around here are excused indicators, I think you can get a chit from the doctors along with you're blue disability badge. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlubikey Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 I thought they were an optional extra. Cheers, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Along with the dip switch these days.... no-one dips any more. Of course to indicate or dip you have to have a free hand, and with one holding the wheel and the other your phone, it's quite difficult.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Qu1ckn1ck said: That is only BMW drivers .... Think of the poor devils that fit indicators to Bmw's What a pointless job.................. 68vitesse, dougbgt6 and Qu1ckn1ck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 16 hours ago, 68vitesse said: And there was me thinking they where taught not to use indicators at all. Regards Paul I wonder if they are being taught that to cause uncertainty among other drivers, so you take more care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 15 hours ago, poppyman said: Think of the poor devils that fit indicators to Bmw's What a pointless job.................. Same as the guy who fits the speedo... might even be the same person does both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: Same as the guy who fits the speedo... might even be the same person does both! The most rewarding job goes to the guy who makes the bonnet badge..... Which is really a magnetic master key that will try to open your boot as you are driving along!! Qu1ckn1ck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjit Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 On 25/05/2019 at 18:59, Colin Lindsay said: Along with the dip switch these days.... no-one dips any more. Of course to indicate or dip you have to have a free hand, and with one holding the wheel and the other your phone, it's quite difficult.... I think dipping is down to lazy drive aids, rather than lazy drivers. Especially in my Spitfire I've noticed you get less dipping the newer a car is - and so the more likely it is to have auto-dipping headlights that don't think my headlights are high-enough/bright-enough to be another car, so don't dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Having halogen headlights working off relays my glow worms are transformed into laser beams. Anybody who doesn't have the courtesy to dip gets a blast back! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 I really must get around to fitting my relays (same as Dougs I think). I got them for safety, didn't realise they would make a difference to the light output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 In my current and past Triumph fleet I fitted halogen headlights. Relays also help. On the TR7 I have halogen headlights. The outer headlights on the Vitesse are halogen as the main problem for me was the 37.5 watt x 2 dip. The normal four headlight main beam was OK. In my view if you drive at night it's a positive way to go. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 yes 12v + to the pointed end makes old yellow sealed beam glow worms back to whiter if you meter the voltage at the lamps its likely to be quite low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Don't do as I did, which was to have an early Herald with the cloth-covered wiring loom, so faded that the cable colours could not be distinguished, so I ended up with one headlamp on dip and one on high, then they swapped sides if I dipped.... it made for some interesting night-time driving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Badwolf said: didn't realise they would make a difference to the light output. As Pete says measure the voltage across the headlight and then across the battery. The headlight is highly likely to be lower. Where's it gone?!! Across the light switch, that's why it gets hot!! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 The main cause of the voltage drop at the headlights is the resistance of the original wiring loom. As a result many owners fit a higher current capacity wire, lower resistance, to the headlights. The relay take the high current load off headlight switch and if fitted near the headlights means you only need to run one higher current lead. Arr got a head ache after that lot. Dave dougbgt6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Dave - have a look at my post on the 'headlamp relay, wiring and fusing' thread and please put me out of me misery. Thanks BW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 I am hesitant to give any advice without seeing things in detail. However, on the original wiring have dip (blue/red), main (blue/white), and side (red). Then an earth (black). Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, dougbgt6 said: Where's it gone?!! Across the light switch, that's why it gets hot!! 1 hour ago, dave.vitesse said: The main cause of the voltage drop at the headlights is the resistance of the original wiring loom. True, but if you ever replace the dip switch on a 2000 saloon or a Dolomite, you should make sure you fit relays because Doug isn't wrong about the switch, and the later production Lucas dip switches "canna tek it" as Scottie would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, NonMember said: True, but if you ever replace the dip switch on a 2000 saloon or a Dolomite, you should make sure you fit relays because Doug isn't wrong about the switch, and the later production Lucas dip switches "canna tek it" as Scottie would say. Rob, I agree the later multi function column switch was not good. I had one in my Toledo in the 1970's melt on headlights. Hence my comment about the relay taking the load of the headlight switch. Doug's spot on. The main switch seemed to cope OK. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 my relays are housed in a cupboard must try harder Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 You have a cupboard in the 2000? Is that where you keep your slippers? db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 One thing that gets me is bike riders (pedal cycle) that have intensely bright LED front lights - they are generally set high and don't dip. dave.vitesse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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