coxy123 Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Hi, i went out in my 1500 non overdrive spitfire last night. it drove great,did about 40 miles, until i was on my way home and I couldn't get it into gear, the clutch pedal wont go down far enough. Any thoughts please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Pivot pin dropped out of the actuating arm in the bell housing would be my guess. Usually fixable without removing the gearbox but you will need to remove the H-frame and tunnel cover. The original pins are parallel and can (and do) fall straight through but replacements are available with heads so they can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxy123 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 thanks nick, wilI I have to split the the bell housing from the engine to access this pin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 I had a similar problem some time ago. The clutch slave cylinder was the problem. New rubbers and fluid solved it. The H frame and tunnel cover still has to come out, but it can be done from underneath if you are a double jointed masocist of short stature. Also check your clutch fluid levels. Could simply be a seal failure and all your clutch fluid in now in your engine bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxy123 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 the fluid level is good. It makes sense that the pin has come out of the actuating arm, just cant my head round how it can be replaced without removing the gearbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Never tried that. Thankfully mine was the easy (!!!) option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 I helped my brother do his 1500 Spitfire clutch and had problems when it was all back together. Received wisdom was it might be the pin and you could do it in situ. We'll we couldn't! Much easier splitting the bell housing and pulling it and the gearbox out. Do it on the bench. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Cooper Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) I'm sure that Nick is right. This happened to my Spitfire and I was able to fix it without removing the gearbox. First take off the H frame and gearbox cover and have a look on the right side of the bell housing, near the pedals. the pivot pin fits through the squarish bulge, running vertically. You may be lucky and find that the pin is still there, dangling from the bottom of the bell housing but it's probably long gone. Either way I would replace it with one with a shoulder at the top to prevent it falling out again. The only difficult bit will be getting the hole through the clutch release arm to get back in line with the hole through the bell housing so that the new pin can drop into place. Taking off the slave cylinder may help here as you can grip the release pin and pull the arm that way, and try sticking a thin screwdriver down through the pivot pin hole to drag the arm into place. Good luck! Adrian Edited August 3, 2019 by Adrian Cooper dodgy punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 yes you can see the hole in the clutch hsg, look down the rh side in line with the baulkhead look for a sort of 8mm dia hole showing amongst the dirt its there ...really dont need the tunnel off have a good look around if the tolerance ring ( asort of crinkled bush ) has broken up its inside the throwout hole bore then its box off or you get a rattling good fit its this daft bush that holds the straight pin in situ, hence update to one with a head on , even a long shanked bolt will work but if the bush thing has disintegrated the hole in the arm is much bigger than the pin or hole in the clutch hsg. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Does sound like the pin. Lock tight the crinkled bush and pin in place. There were some after market pins made with a domed top to prevent it from dropping out. Maybe worth asking the supplier if they have any of these. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 rimmers list alternative as spindle with a circlip added https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-129410 still needs the tolerance crinkle bush https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-129412 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLUTCH-RELEASE-ARM-FULCRUM-PIVOT-PIN-TRIUMPH-HERALD-SPITFIRE/202588824420?fits=Car+Make%3ATriumph&hash=item2f2b3c2364:g:3JsAAOSwikBcWbJT Cheap enough to replace one for future peace of mind, even if that turns out not to be the problem - just in case! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxy123 Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 I've had a poke with a screwdriver. There's no pin but the hole looks about 8mm. So to recap, do I need to remove the tunnel or not. As was said earlier, it's lining the arm up that's difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 You need to wiggle the throw out arm and try to feed a tapered thin pin tho the lot to re align.the holes Not overly easy but with some strong tea and a bit of good will it may all line up Maybe start with a no 1 posidrive work up to a no 2 Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxy123 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Had to take gearbox out. Looking at it, I would never have got everything lined up from the outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 so its all good now ?? rimmers still show an expensive spindle with a circlip on one end but its not available now Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxy123 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I took gearbox out last night, just giving everything good clean before I put it back together. I've welded a washer on the top of the pin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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