martyn wright Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Hi All! Having checked my front Side Lights/Indicators on my 1966 Vitesse 6, I found that I could not save the Backing Plates due to rust? I have been looking at Canley/Rimmer and Paddock but they do not sell these separately! Canley do the Herald 13/60 Backing but are these the same as my vehicle? My vehicle has 2 x protruding bulb holders at the back of the plate. The front lens is a "V" shape and not a flat type. Also is L584 the correct item code for my late Vitesse? Cheers Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 oe part number 205526 it this any good https://www.holden.co.uk/c/electrical/lighting/side_and_flasher_lamps/page/4 pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted May 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Hi Pete! Hope you are well? ACC Parts have just come back to me and they said that they will do me a deal 2 x Complete units for £19.99 each! = £39.98 pair. L584 RH/LH Thanks for your help Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 i seem to remember the studs on the new are different centres or something/ may be even access to the nuts ??? which ended up punch the studs out and use some other fixing on my 64 Vit6 when i replaced them a long while ago Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Thank you, young man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 12 hours ago, martyn wright said: young man!! can i have that in writing ????? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 Ha! Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 Pete! Do you know if the 13/60 front indicators are the same? As they have the Backing Plate available online? Cheers Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 of top of head dont think so, , the later cars had the flat lense lamp, have a feeling its a bit smaller but many parts used in the industry were carry over designs who knows if the later lamp used the older backplate ????????????? where's Dave or Colin when you want him solution buy one try it let us all know Ha !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 Original early Herald part number was 506619 (backing plate) HOWEVER the early Herald parts manual states that if unavailable, then part number 206977 may be used as an alternative provided they are fitted in pairs. Later backing plates did not have the metal shield between the bulbs. Later units appear to be 510760. Paddocks sell the flat versions - 216417 - at £27 each, or the backing plates at £12.50 each, and the glass by itself at £6.50, and list those for both 1200 and 13/60; I presume that's all that's available new these days. Mike Costigan claims the early Heralds had peaked lights, whilst the later Vitesse and 13/60 had flat, and the press shots he has of the 1600 and the 'new' 2-litre Vitesse show peaked units. I nipped out to the garage there but all I have are pairs of peaked, no flats - too modern for me! I could stick my neck out and say that there's no difference in the size of the lenses other than the depth due to the peak. I've also found an early backplate - most of mine had succumbed terminally to rust - but this one does have the L584 code. I'll post a few reference photos to help. Compare that one with the modern version currently on sale: There are slight differences ie strengthening ribs but basically the same. I managed to find a NOS light lens which interestingly enough has two part numbers: 576291 and 505492; it's a peaked version with completely assymetric lens pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted May 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hi! My Vitesse 6 1600 (Late 12 July 66) has the peaked version with the metal plate between the bulbs! Cheers Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted May 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hi Again! Just checked inside the Backing and it also states L584! So mine is the same as the first two photos. Cheers Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 OKay! So! does it matter if there is not a separator between the bulbs on the backing plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 yes as stray light from each bulb will illuminate the whole lense i would make a simple baffle just to keep the white and amber seperated Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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