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Until the advent of the DVLA in 1977 vehicle licencing records were maintained locally as hand written ledgers by your local town Hall. I recently did some research into the early history of my Triumph and contacted Hertfordshire Council for a copy of the relevant page which duly arrived within a fortnight. As was typical in the trade, the garage that sold mine - Herts Motors, St Albans - had taken out a block booking of 10 registration numbers at the start of the month - TUR241J to TUR250J, called up as cars were sold. One of those was subsequently unused (if anyone is looking for a Triumph related number for an imported 1970 car I guess it would still be available) These records are rather fickle depending on where you are, with Hertfordshire only recording the registration number, 'to whom allocated' and date first registered, whereas (For instance) the Bournemouth records which are now held at Dorchester, detail the registration number, agent, make and model, name of customer and date first registered. A document from that source therefore also provides a fascinating insight into what other vehicles were being sold and to what sort of customers. In March 1963 for instance among the mix of private and commercial customers, W.H.Smiths bought a single Ford Cortina from Hendys Bros, and the S.E.B. Yeovil bought a Morris 6cwt van direct from Morris, but of the 35 vehicles listed in that two week period, just 3 were Triumphs - all of them Heralds. Going back to the Hertfordshire listing, Herts Motors were at 21-23 London Road, St Albans. Centrally placed as were so many dealers back then and now inevitably redeveloped as flats. If anyone has any information or an image of this dealership I'd be interested to hear. In the meantime I've made a low resolution pdf file up of the 'Triumph Sales and Service Directory' booklet for March 1970 that came in the glovebox of my car when I bought it in 1989 so you can play the 'what are the dealerships now' game... (Attached)

 

Triumph SSD March 1970.pdf

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Interesting! Thanks for posting the attachment. I can confirm that St James Garage, Sutton is still there although now just a petrol station, having been a Volvo service centre for as long as I can remember before that.

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You've set me off now! There's no mention of the dealership on my V5. I bought the car from the second owner who bought it the day it was first registered. So the dealer was the first owner and I'm the third? Or am I the second? Whatever, my number plate is GDG and from this web site (why it's named londonbusroutes I don't know!):

 

http://www.londonbusroutes.net/miscellaneous/regs.htm

 

I discover the registration area is the second two letters. Yours (T)UR were allocated to Hertfordshire. Correct! Mine (G)DG, to my surprise, Gloucestershire. The PO lived in Adelstone in Surrey. A couple of candidates from the dealer list in Hemel and Watford but 30 miles from Adelstone. Why did he go that far? There's loads around the corner in Surrey!

 

I confirm the block booking of number plates, the plate immediately after mine, also a GT6 was registered the same day in April 73. Despite this it was manufactured in Dec 72 whilst mine was Feb 73 so, for a for along time, it was tax exempt and mine wasn't! I suppose mine sold quicker being the new spec upgrade, non-rotoflex etc and the other the old spec, rotoflex.

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It will cost you a fiver but if you download form V888 from the DVLA website, fill in the details and send it off snailmail you can obtain a copy of every surviving registration document they hold. Many of these are on microfilm only now so can be a bit difficult to read but given your GT6 is 1972 it should include a copy of the original hand written log book which were all surrendered when the DVLA took over in the mid to late 1970's. Worth saying that in section 4 state ' Full keeper history as I am the current owner and would like a record of it's background history', and in section 5 'For my own personal records'.... or something like that. What it won't give you is the original dealer unless they sold it to themselves to make up sales quotas. In my case I got a document that covered it's transit through Sewards car sales in Havant in 1982 so some trade activity may survive. You should pick up when a change of engine or colour occurred of course if that is relevant. The dealer that first sold it will be recorded on a Heritage Certificate or in the original registration books held by the local Council.

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  • 2 years later...

This is an extract from the latest FBHVC newsletter written by Ian Edmunds -

 

“Several people have drawn my attention to an unfortunate revision to the DVLA service to supply information about a vehicle in  response to a V888 request.  Up until September it was possible for a vehicle keeper to obtain all the registration history that DVLA held for that vehicle on payment of a small fee.  DVLA considered that researching the vehicles history was ‘reasonable cause’ for needing the information.

 

However, since September DVLA have revised the requirements for ‘reasonable cause’ and researching the vehicle history is no longer acceptable.  The V888 form itself has been revised to reflect these changes.  Further guidance on ‘reasonable cause’ can be found at www.gov.uk/request-information-from-dvla   We will discuss this further with DVLA but we believe that the General Data Protection Regulation does unfortunately leave them with no choice.  Thus, we have all lost a valuable service.”

 

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Having read the 1st post in this thread - anybody looking for info about Triumph Car Dealers can download and view several  dealer directories from my blog at: http://vitessesteve.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/triumph-car-dealer-directories.html

Regarding the V888 - That is shame, makes me glad I got the history of my Vitesse years ago.  One of the previous owners being that well known Triumphist Chris Gunby.

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