Gadgetman Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 There is a conflict in the Vitesse manual for the end gap on the steering rack (A-A in the picture & text) is the gap meant to be 1/8” or 1/4”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Ah, well... I don't think that's actually a conflict. The end gap ("distance between flanges") is definitiely 1/8". The problem is that whoever drew that diagram failed to account for potential name space conflicts, as we say in the software industry. The annotations marked "A" and "B" refer to the items marked with arrows from the big letters "A" and "B" on the left side of the drawing. The little inset marked "A-A" is a cross-sectional drawing taken at reference position "A-A" defined by the vertical line with an arrow at each end pointing to letter "A" on the right side of the drawing. Because this is a cross-section position marker it occupies a different "name space" to the flange identification markers. Thus there is no connection between these "A"s and the other "A"s. They're different things! The 1/4" dimension only defines how far from the nearside flange on the rack itself the cross-section showing the rubber button in the rack is taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 More issues. Once I've set the jam nut 33 to the dimensions given in the manual (step 1)I I cant screw the the ball joint on far enough to hit the jam nut as the thread on the rack (32) bottoms out in nut (34) Anyone any ideas ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 with all the difficulties with your rack i wonder if its an alternative make and the processes we have all used without snags makes me wonder just what have you got something reminds me there were two manufacturers ???? the recon market can produce a whole mixture Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Pete Lewis said: with all the difficulties with your rack i wonder if its an alternative make and the processes we have all used without snags makes me wonder just what have you got something reminds me there were two manufacturers ???? the recon market can produce a whole mixture Pete Could be Pete. I’ll try and find some washers or shims that will go between the nut 33 and item 34 to get the rack travel correct. Uggg I wish I’d just bought a recon rack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 a recon......that might bring up a whole new load of problems ,,, apart from nice paint they will try to tell you they all the same but 6cyl has 6 teeth and 4 cyl has 7 tooth pinions identifies a 6 tooth by a groove machined in the input shaft splines put what some sell as a fast rack on a 6 pot and you will need a trolley of shreaded wheat Ha ! or biceps like Arnie Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Pete Lewis said: a recon......that might bring up a whole new load of problems ,,, apart from nice paint they will try to tell you they all the same but 6cyl has 6 teeth and 4 cyl has 7 tooth pinions identifies a 6 tooth by a groove machined in the input shaft splines put what some sell as a fast rack on a 6 pot and you will need a trolley of shreaded wheat Ha ! or biceps like Arnie Pete Now that’s another issue... it’s a 6 tooth pinion but it has no groove! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 me thinks you have the rack nobody wanted Ha !! does seem to be a bit of a hybrid /other make/who's make rack whilst the design has similarities the clues dont work so its now make do and mend ?????? does it have the hole in the tube passenger side for the small nylon anti rattle plunger???? that sits under the lh mount rubber Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Gadgetman said: Now that’s another issue... it’s a 6 tooth pinion but it has no groove! Dio you wish to revert to a 7 tooth? I may (no promises) have one in the garage, and can look this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said: me thinks you have the rack nobody wanted Ha !! does seem to be a bit of a hybrid /other make/who's make rack whilst the design has similarities the clues dont work so its now make do and mend ?????? does it have the hole in the tube passenger side for the small nylon anti rattle plunger???? that sits under the lh mount rubber Pete Hi Pete Yes it has the nylon plug. I just fitted a new one as the old one was missing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, clive said: Dio you wish to revert to a 7 tooth? I may (no promises) have one in the garage, and can look this morning. Clive I could swap my pinion over if you do have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Gadgetman said: Clive I could swap my pinion over if you do have one? Just scoffed a lazy Saturday breakfast, off up the garage now. Will report back soon (probably lunchtime!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Lewis Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 like i said a 7 tooth on a 6 pot makes some real heavy parking now wonder if i have that back to front !!! the lower ratio is to combat the weight of the 6 pot oddly canley list 134689 7 tooth H/S/V ??? and i cant find the ref to the 6pot groove ...its somewhere Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: like i said a 7 tooth on a 6 pot makes some real heavy parking now wonder if i have that back to front !!! the lower ratio is to combat the weight of the 6 pot oddly canley list 134689 7 tooth H/S/V ??? and i cant find the ref to the 6pot groove ...its somewhere Pete I think I’ve read it in the courier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Gadgetman said: Clive I could swap my pinion over if you do have one? I seem to have several 7 tooth pinions, but seems you need the 6? I am feeling confuzzled today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 confuzzled keep taking the pills think stg racks are a sort of 'lucky dip' Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: confuzzled keep taking the pills think stg racks are a sort of 'lucky dip' Pete I am still pill free, except the occasional vitamin. But I am still young. At least I like to think so. But the brain seems to be largely in holiday mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 youre lucky i have to take 7 in the AM and 5 in the PM a day for a year . thats till end december Grrr !! by then i will be pickled Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 hours ago, clive said: I seem to have several 7 tooth pinions, but seems you need the 6? I am feeling confuzzled today! I’m after a 6 tooth but have one I could swap over if needed also has anyone come across this with grease Le track rod ends, it hits the disk and is a larger diameter than the standard ones! back to the non grease’abl type... I had one new old stock Lockheed hidden away at the back of a cupboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 doesnt the stg arm have spacers ???? dont see them on parts list but something rings a bell !!! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: doesnt the stg arm have spacers ???? dont see them on parts list but something rings a bell !!! Pete Nope no spacers.... I’ve checked the mk3 GT6 manual as well and there’s no reference to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 then add some decent washers ???? ( reset the toe in) like you sometiimes do for calipers def not on any parts list but the idea is from somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: then add some decent washers ???? ( reset the toe in) like you sometiimes do for calipers def not on any parts list but the idea is from somewhere I was thinking the same. It’s interesting the front bolt is exactly the right length ( one thread protruding through the nut) without the spacers though so a longer bolt is needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahebron Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Or a shorter nut. I turned 4 down when refitting the propshaft to my Vitesse 6. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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