Pete Lewis Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 no thats just the OD data plate the gearbox number is a hand and hammer stamped number on the cast case top face alongside the the left side of the alloy top cover shown in colins photo Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 One final and hopefully last query today When I fitted the overdrive switch back on the housing, for some reason I heard crackling through the radio speaker????? I had not realised the radio was on so I put it off and got nothing, put it back on (not tuned to any station, and wiggled the o/d switch and again I got crackling!!!??? So... it is making a circuit some where even with ignition off.. is that right? I have no idea what position the stalk is at on column and even not sure if ignition switch may have been on aux??? More testing required tomorrow. I thought I heard sparking yesterday when working on it but must have been speaker crackle. My gawd..... what a car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 cant say about the switch depends which way up the plonker had it fitted , but up down is in and out or out and in depends on how may beers by the time youve worked it out you have forgotten why you were engaging Ha ! certainly need the OD to be ignition controlled but a D type must have a relay because of the high split second initial engagement loads (10 to 20amp) the relay will take this the switch wont so the relay will have a ignition trigger line from the column switch but a permanent live from the fuse box or elswhere 'hopefully witth an inline fuse hidden or not !!!! pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Spotted an inline fuse near battery yesterday and traced it to the front of the gear extension then got confused thinking it was reversing light related!! Shows how thick I am but at least had the right idea Duuuh I'm sure it was not as confusing in the 60's. Senility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Oh dear. Well, given the "interesting" approach the previous owner had to mechanical things, and the widespread bizarreness inflicted on car electrics even by relatively competent mechanics, you're probably going to find a few oddities in the wiring. As Pete says, you need a relay. The contacts of this relay should go from live to the solenoid, and that's probably a direct-to-the-battery type "brown" live. The control windings of the relay should be in a circuit from ignition switch (white wire) through column switch and the inhibitor switch to ground. Which order the two switches and the relay are in doesn't matter but they must all be in series and powered from the ignition switch. You do not want your overdrive engaged all night while the car is parked up but with the gear lever over to the right by accident! If there's live power on the inhibitor switch (either side) when the ignition is off then something is wrong with the wiring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 its the hot weather you dont have reversing lights well not in your picture , Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Found the ignition switch was still in aux position! No key in. Could start the car, open the door and the boot with a screwdriver. Just like the old days. That's it. I'm done for the day What will tomorrow bring, apart from 29 degrees!! Toon Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Aux , that should only supply the radio and sometimes the heater fan is linked in as a personal choice aux should have no other operations connected ....without personal choice Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Like Pete says, Aux should not power up the circuit. I feel a careful tracing of the wiring may be due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Would you believe it!! The radio aerial cable was tangled up near the switch and loose in the back of radio causing the crackling!!! Phew! I'll still check it all out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Welcome Jeff. You have come to the right forum. Knowledge here is superb. Thread drift mandatory, humour... dubious, but all in the best possible taste and well meant. Enjoy it here but most of all, enjoy you Triumph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 you mention CT and less response , Kieth who was given the spec they wanted has given up and distanced from the job he does at times visit our evenings at the pub when we had meetings , the operation of their revised forum is so slow and clumsy , it can do good thins if you have the patience shame it was another good source of ideas but since the rebuild seems to have lost its way there again we had a COM who felt the forum was not needed after the website collapsed one christmas and was full of moaners and windgers really !!! it took a vote at the agm to get this valuable resource resurrected keep asking answers will be quick but might not be anything to do with the problem Ha ! Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Interesting. We had numerous similar fall outs within the celica gt4 community. Got that geabox number looks like DG106119. So, guys... what is it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 its has been over stamped DG what was under ?? never know DG is 1300 Toledo but it has little bearing on anything . most 4 cyl boxes are all similar and much get interchanged over the years of rebuilds its been modified to take the overdrive mainshaft which is common to many boxes , i dont recall Toledo having it as an option (not checked ) Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Don't think it's been overstamped just the G was initially stamped horizontally. Seems to be quite common to have poor stamping and I wonder if Triumph didn't give the job to the apprentices back in the day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Any idea what age it is then? Pity I have no way of contacting previous owners (5 on log book when I signed it). Lad I bought it from must have only had it a short time as a lass was registered keeper. (Since September 2018) I have her name address and email and have emailed her 4/5 days ago but nothing back. Lad said her dad had given it to her after having it from new!!!?? (5 keepers) and driven it regularly to Cyprus!!!. There is a full set of basic spares and yellow headlight converters so this is believed. Lad got it from a garage in Poole area where it was sitting in corner doing nowt. He seems to know the lass as he said she had px for something posh! Oh well. Refurb continues when it cools a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Think your box is from 70 to 75 and you'll have to be careful with ordering spares if you decide to rebuild the gearbox at some stage as there were differences between early and late 3 rail gearboxes particularly with the synchro rings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Oh dear! ... ok and thanks. I'll open a new paper file on this car, it will be thick!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 A bit late with a welcome (I have been out driving mine for the last 2 days) but "welcome to the mad house" by now you have been swamped by replies, hopefully some if not all your current questions have been answered. Nice choice of colour by the way, but i'm biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Nice to 'meet' you Chris. It is good to know that some cars are actually on the road!.... It will be a few more days before I get the brakes sorted :) unless their performance at the moment is all I can expect! Would a servo addition be 'anti classic?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Servo or not servo? Oh dear! Now you've done it. You'll get PLENTY of replies on that question. If I am correct they were offered on certain models as an option. Mine doesn't have one I just have to remember to press hard. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Eeeeek. Can of worms! I'll stand back and duck the flack. I am getting on a bit and muscles are weak. Power assisted steering....!!! ??? Naaah. I'm not that soft. I put a 10" steering wheel on one of my spitfires back in '72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jeffds1360 said: Eeeeek. Can of worms! No, can of worms is mechanical fan versus electric. I'll throw my bit in straight away. Having just got back from 2 days driving in mid to high 30s the temperature needle remained for the vast part of the journey in its' usual position, a tad over to the red from vertical. It did venture a bit closer to red on a couple of occasions, stopped for a short while. I didn't spend much time in traffic jams either. I have upgraded mine from the metal 4 blade fan to the 'hot climate export' plastic 7 bladed item. Absolutely essential here in Normandy! 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Jeffds1360 said: Nice to 'meet' you Chris. It is good to know that some cars are actually on the road!.... It will be a few more days before I get the brakes sorted :) unless their performance at the moment is all I can expect! Would a servo addition be 'anti classic?' Right I'll get this started then😉Servo can be good to get a more modern feel to brakes if you do find them too strange but be warned you won't have ABS and getting in a skid in one of our cars is not fun☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 servo just reduces the pedal effort it will not improve the foundation braking , you just push less cheapest upgrade is to add a bigger pedal pad , can make an amazing difference Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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