Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Is there a recommended method or is it necessary, to bleed the master after removing it cleaning and re fitting? Or just fill it up and do a normal bleed of all 4 corners, in the right order? Thanks guys. Long time no do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 I would do just a normal bleed going closest to furthest but taking longer, especially over the first venting, to ensure any air at the master cylinder has been expelled.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Cheers Johny. Can anyone confirm that just putting a vacuum bleeder on a bleed nipple will NOT work unless the brake pedal is depressed then? Also is it not farthest first and work in??? (o/s/r, n/s/r, o/s/f and n/s/f [as it is closest to the manifold] although o/s/f is nearest to M/C) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 I wouldn't use a vacuum bleeder - full stop ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 well, I've always done it furthest first. I know nothing of vacuum bleeders, I just use a plastic pipe and jam jar. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 A vacuum bleeder will pull fluid directly from the reservoir and in fact wont work if the pedal is pressed at the same time. People have different ways of bleeding the brakes but if I had changed the master cylinder I would want to get the air bubble out via the shortest route possible rather than pass it all the way through the longest so giving a bigger chance it'll get stuck somewhere.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Makes sense db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 OK thanks, I see that now. Taking into account the manifold location, the n/s/f is closest then. I'll just use gravity until I find an assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 vacuum bleeders wont work well with simple bleed nipples letting air in via the threads , the need to be sealed with thick grease or you just pull outside air single handed can easy to make a simple bleed tube valve ,plug the tube end and with a sharp blade cut a 1" slit in the tube wall this then acts as a non return valve, cheap and easy the olde method of pedal down rapid back slow ,keep res topped up works for most keep the collecting jar up higher than the wheels so air always rises and you can see whats coming through . many nip the bleed before the back stroke ,but on your own thats a bit difficult . unless you fluid is all new it must be changed every 2 years as it soaks up moisture from the open vent like a sponge at 2 yrs old its about 5% water so why not bleed the whole system? Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Cheers Pete, I am changing the fluis as it read 5%+ on my little test thingumyjig. New stuff is zero Just had 5 mins with the wife pumping but she wanted away to do ??? whatever they do. good news is I have n/s/f clear but muggins here had missed the master level going down, could not believe it all went in 5 strokes! So, got a funeral at 1 but back at 2 with my technically adept daughter and we will sort it. You need to copy and paste that reply!!! Now I have had a chance to search I have seen it a few times Us newbies eh? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 pleased yo have a tester thingy , happy pumping being repeatative is forum virus Ha ! pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Jeffds1360 said: OK thanks, I see that now. Taking into account the manifold location, the n/s/f is closest then. I'll just use gravity until I find an assistant Gravity is the only method i use Jeff and have never had a problem. The assistant can make you a cuppa Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Mr Newton, the gravity man is doing the business right now !!! £ out of 4 done. N?SR is being a bugger. bleed nipple was wat too tight. Might stick a vacuum on it .... or remove and see what occurs. My smile is back...??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 N/s/r had muck in it. Cleaned it out and now all are fully bled and it is the hardest I have been since I got it! The pedal I mean!!! BUT..... still got uj problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 One out of two not bad though Jeff Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 But I only had to do the brakes because of the uj replacement and that has failed so I am well p'd off! Back under tomorrow and recheck how circlips fit. Maybe need thicker ones due to trying to force them in when two needles were displaced.... ahhh man. Waracar I got. Geordie boy don't give up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Nearly every day I look at some part or other and tell myself: It's not going to beat me. Usually it doesn't, but it's the fact that I don't go mad and welt it across the room that also helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 never give up we all learnt by throwing spanners down the garden dont upset the Gnomes or Fairies these little cars sit and listen just to get their own back when you dont expect it Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: never give up we all learnt by throwing spanners down the garden dont upset the Gnomes or Fairies You might hit the gnomes and fairies on the head with the spanners. Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 My signature:- The big one at the back has many fractures to the skull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Jeffds1360 said: My signature:- The big one at the back has many fractures to the skull Fairynough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 are they from the Gnome Office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 They come from a broken gnome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Did you buy them from GnomeBase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 They came from the Ship Inn on Holy island (lindisfarne) where I visit regularly. A fat American woman (aren't they all) had fallen on it in the garden area and I offered to repair it. There were 32 pieces! Talk about a 3D jigsaw!!! Anyway, I got 5 pints for the repair. You wannabe see the next job I got from the pub...photo..got a nights b&b for that repair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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