johny Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Paddocks are 10.50 + VAT and del. for a wheel bearing kit and trunnions are cheap (although as with most things now cant vouch for quality) but your biggest problem is getting hold of the proper puller cos the hub will be tight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 You'll have a nightmare job getting the bearings off the halfshaft without the correct tools, as Johny says; you'll need, at the least, the equivalent of a hub puller - any other kind of puller will either break, or distort the hub. I've sent mine away to RBMobileClassics, they advertise in The Courier, or if you want to try a second-hand unit it will be cheaper but that will be an unknown quantity. Have you looked at it with a) the wheel removed, so you can watch the motion of the brake drum, and b) with the brake drum removed so that you can watch the hub as it rotates? That video was quite shaky; I'd like a much longer look at the UJ as it rotates, if that's possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Thanks Johny, I'll look into it when problem confirmed. Colin, I'm out going round my old 'back street garages' to see what they got. I checked with drum on and off and saw no movement. I'll video that and get under to vid the uj too. My wife has left me.........for a few days, cat sitting at the daughters and I seem to be Billy no mates at the moment. Do what I can. Report back tonight. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Dont let them talk you into trying a 3 or 4 leg puller as that might work on some cars but the triumph hub seems to be made of plasticine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jeffds1360 said: I seem to be Billy no mates at the moment. My usual state of affairs, unless someone wants something done to their car... it's amazing what you can accomplish on your own, especially without anyone dragging you away to buy useless things or make the tea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Reet. Bit of a hedge podge and not much of uj but it seems fine. Exhaust is so crackly but you can still hear the doomp doomp doomp. My back gave in. Sitting down now. Old garages shut but still going. I'll call them later. I really need to know if I should take link off again and how to plug the hard brake pipe as bleeding is the worst part! 3 videos to come 20200821_151921.mp4 20200821_151223.mp4 20200821_151025.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 There's very slight up and down movement on the end of the halfshaft, by the nut but have a look at the diff end - that's a lot of eccentric movement in time with the ticking - view from about 25 seconds on that bottom video. It looks like there's something in behind the flange that is off centre. It's not the UJ, but the diff quarter shaft in behind it that's making the noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Hmmmm. I hope so I'll get a better video of that in the morning. The noise seems much stronger at the hub end mind??? I'll retry my timber stethoscope too. Thanks Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 I don't think I'm seeing the eccentric movement Colin refers to - the end of the shaft isn't quite square but that's not a problem, and I can't see any movement at the diff flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 well it seems is going to be wheel bearing of output shaft bearing when it comes to which end to start i would take the whole shaft and trunion block off as an assembly ...again the short shaft is easy to remove with a hex key thro' the coupling holes a spin in the fingers should give you a clue as for the hub bearing yes a dedicated puller is a must or you will bend the hub flanges the bearing is a loose push fit in the trunion block but a bitch of a tight fit on the shaft there add on pullers to go with the hub puller that make it easy but they both cost ££s i have always whacked the shaft out the bearing with a birmingham screwdriver , support block in a good vice and whack the shaft out you must protect the threads with a couple of hub nuts or make a drift to hit the shaft not the threads , they are soft and will fall over. pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Anybody want to buy a 13/60 .........??? Got this for a bit nostalgia and a basic tidy up It is getting me down (the wife says) No No No.... i'll stick at it. Having a night in with a few cans, taking Haynes to bed.... bit light reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, NonMember said: I don't think I'm seeing the eccentric movement Colin refers to - the end of the shaft isn't quite square but that's not a problem, and I can't see any movement at the diff flange. Watch this part at the end: Especially THIS part: The dark part right at the tip of the yellow arrow. There's something there moving up and down as the shaft rotates, and nothing should be moving in that plane in this area. I've cropped the video to this bit only: diff.mov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Wow Colin!! You sure can work the videos. Tomorrow I'll video more of the uj area at tickover. Hey, I'm really sorry to be putting all these problems of mine to you all. I've filled out my dd for membership and will post tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Don't wish to add to your woes but the brake shoe without the handbrake is upside down C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 good spot Casper thats one of my pet hates , its a very common error yes trailing shoe must have the HB lever hole at the bottom or the self servo effect is lost apart from poor lining area contact y it 1/2s the rear brake efficiency pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Well ya boogar man! I thank you for that. Shows what a divi the PO was. I'll sort that A.M. muchos graciias... and check 'tother side too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 finding and correcting 50 years of mis appropriated repairs can take ages, lots of tea and hair loss just to cheer you up Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Anybody near Biggleswade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 well im not far away but what spitty later had 1/2" longer shafts which would give you a problem we need to know just what model year its off they say herald spit they think dont unravel more headaches if i collect them i guess ive got to get tehm courierd up norf . Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Hi Pete, I've asked him for a courier price. Not realised there was an option! Bugrit...good price too? What year do they need to be/not be? I'll ask him but he probably won't know! Just getting a couple of videos for Colin. I'll add them now. 20200822_095121.mp4 20200822_095435.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 without checking longer shafts went on late mkIV and certainly 1500 fit a long shaft to a short shaft car and you get a low and crazy camber and from distant memory there was simple article in Courier 292 so need to look up the down load if you measure the basic shaft length its a something like 10 or 10,5 " tape measured the shaft you see Im off to do Paula's gearbox Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Try to get a square-on / right angled video as it runs; even lay the camera on the floor or on top of an upturned bucket to bring it closer and eliminate camera shake, pointing upwards, and let it run. It's this area that I spotted in the earlier video, as if the cover was bent or off-centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 That seal cover can be quite knackered without causing any grief and I'm still not convinced I'm seeing anything other than a bit of muck on it. We really need a much steadier video to say anything with any confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Right. Try this. I'm knacked now. No more today. damn.... I see where you want. I'll try again later to get a better angle 20200822_120801.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 One last film 20200822_122355.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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