AidanT Posted December 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 If you take a gander @ the Mk2 Schematic on Canleys https://www.canleyclassics.com/?diagram=triumph-gt6-mki/ii-mkii-engine&ptno=217488 you can see the part No:44 part number 214842 Also shown in my parts catalog PLATE R This also shows the filter inset item 45 PN: 149621 So i think its the correct part for the engine Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, AidanT said: So OIL PUMP Firstly, there's no mesh or filter inside the uptake tube. Is it necessary?? Second see the pic... does this look right with the edges taken off on the outer? The gap seems fine @ .0035 between the inner and outer Let me know 😀 Believe theres two design for the mesh - it can either be fitted round the end of the intake or, as should be in your case, is a grill fitted across the entire sump with a hole for the intake tube to poke through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Iain T said: Have you measured the rotor to body end gap? This is most important. Will do tomorrow Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, johny said: Believe theres two design for the mesh - it can either be fitted round the end of the intake or, as should be in your case, is a grill fitted across the entire sump with a hole for the intake tube to poke through. Afraid there's no Mesh in the sump! Have a look at the part 45 noted above Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, AidanT said: Afraid there's no Mesh in the sump! Have a look at the part 45 noted above Aidan yes Ive just seen that and it looks like it fits up inside your pumps intake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Unbelievably, I have got my hands on an NOS filter! My luck must be in as these are another of those proverbial hens teeth !!!! 😁 Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger K Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Looks like your oil pump is for a KC/KD engine, if it has that style of pick up. Much clearer image here: https://www.canleyclassics.com/?catalogue=triumph-gt6-mkiii&diagram=triumph-gt6-mkiii-oil-pump The parts suppliers seem to list only one pump, with a hemispherical filter basket, for all 6 cylinders now including TR6 etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, Roger K said: Much clearer image here: https://www.canleyclassics.com/?catalogue=triumph-gt6-mkiii&diagram=triumph-gt6-mkiii-oil-pump Yes, that's the page I found in my paper copy of the parts book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Rob / Roger Its also listed for the MK2 GT6 / Vitesse engine although on a different plate in the parts book (same part numbers) Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 58 minutes ago, AidanT said: Unbelievably, I have got my hands on an OEM filter! My luck must be in as these are another of those proverbial hens teeth !!!! 😁 Aidan Brilliant, now just got to hope the pump endfloat is within tolerance😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 you not trying mick dolphin lists one http://www.mickdolphin.co.uk/Files/TSSC Weblist 1120.pdf 149621 oil pump filter gauze GT6 III RARE! £ 3.50 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Was wondering how he had a 158 degree thermostat, or needed one... but he lists in F not C.... (which is 70) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said: you not trying mick dolphin lists one http://www.mickdolphin.co.uk/Files/TSSC Weblist 1120.pdf 149621 oil pump filter gauze GT6 III RARE! £ 3.50 Pete HAHA I wrote it incorrectly - Found a New Old stock one !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: think i mentioned much earlier i have never seen that design of pump pick up as you engine has its from else where or some modification but the rectangular pick up is to me very unusual maybe some has a clue about it Pete Mine was the same when I bought my GT6 Mk1, a rectangular pick up pipe, the engine was 2000 saloon MB-prefix and the original long gone but it could have come from either. I bought a new pump with the strainer assembly. If it worries you - don't; you can always buy a replacement to 'puck' yourself up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky_Spit Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 hours ago, johny said: Brilliant, now just got to hope the pump endfloat is within tolerance😳 Luckily that is the easiest bit to cure if it isn't. Just rub down the pump body on wet and dry paper on a perfectly flat surface, as per the instructions in the link I posted. One of the most satisfying little jobs and which gives good results for so little effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 hmmm not so easy if its a cast iron body rather than the later aluminium😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 55 minutes ago, Sparky_Spit said: satisfying little jobs and which gives good results So I am told excessive end float will kill your oil pressure so this is most important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Iain T said: So I am told excessive end float will kill your oil pressure so this is most important. So the end float / rotor clearance is .0024 Seems to be pretty good Aidan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 18/12/2020 at 09:29, Nigel Clark said: One more suggestion... Practical Classics magazine is running a seven part series on the complete strip down and rebuild of a Spitfire engine at TRGB. It covers pretty much every step of overhauling a small Triumph engine with colour photos (unlike a Haynes manual), and words explaining each step. Part 5 is out now in the January issue, no doubt the earlier parts can still be purchased as back numbers. I have to admit a connection, as I photographed and wrote this series for Practical Classics! Anyone know where I can get hold of Sep to Jan issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Clark Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 You can try here: https://www.greatmagazines.co.uk/single-back-issues/motoring-single-back-issues/car-magazines-single-back-issues/practical-classics-single-back-issues Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Strongly advise against putting any personal or card details on the Great Magazines site. It is not secure. Wife had her debit card cloned after using their site a couple of weeks ago. They are aware of the problem. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, Nick Jones said: Strongly advise against putting any personal or card details on the Great Magazines site. It is not secure. Wife had her debit card cloned after using their site a couple of weeks ago. They are aware of the problem. Nick I PayPal'd it. My account needs dual authorisation. I'm sure it could be cracked but there's easier pickings so pretty sure they won't bother with me. Plus can always recover through PayPal Plus the fact I used pocket Mags in the end ✔️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Well Father Christmas was very kind 😂 I now have a makita 400Nm battery rattle wrench! Bolt out but to next problem. I assume the timing cover should be all bolts but.. please refer to the pic. Any ideas how to move these? The slots aren't great and they are about 15mm across, my biggest screw driver won't touch them And next, on the second picture is this a seal on the back, and does it need replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 They are correct. You need bigger screwdriver! And ideally a hammer-through type, so screwdriver in slot, a couple of hefty taps with a hammer, and they will undo. EDIT wickes sell a 10mm slotted screwdriver for £4, but not hammer-through. But you could do the hitting via a socket extension or drift etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 you need a proper wooden handled screwdriver or a blade attachment for your ratchet wrench are the other two allen key socket cap bolts ?? thats the harmonic damper ring bonding the damper ring is showing signs of age , John D has a rig to test these its quite common but if the bond between the hub and outer ring is sound its all ok the only problem you may get is if the bond breaks down the timing ring will rotate and the timing is impossible to set some of us have that Tee shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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