Soft top to windscreen weather seal installation

[Tipidave]

I was just congratulating myself for finally getting round to fitting the rubber seal that sits on the soft top header and mates with the windscreen frame. It was quite a struggle to get it to sit in the channel... but finally it is done. Beer all round you might think!

However, it is now impossible to get the soft top to close and before adjusting the brackets I am wondering if I have fitted it the right way round... or maybe even  have the wrong seal.  I have looked everywhere for a schematic but cannot tell. The seal is roughly a square cross section with a slit cut in it to create a thick pad and a thin flap. I have mounted it such that the thin flap mates with the inner part of the windscreen top , the slit sitting around the raised section on top the windscreen frame and the thick part mating  the outer windscreen frame. Can anyone confirm this is correct or otherwise?

Thanks again  oh and Merry Xmas to all!!

 

[Colin Lindsay]

18 hours ago, Tipidave said:

I have mounted it such that the thin flap mates with the inner part of the windscreen top , the slit sitting around the raised section on top the windscreen frame and the thick part mating  the outer windscreen frame. Can anyone confirm this is correct or otherwise?

Thanks again  oh and Merry Xmas to all!!

 

I can't find a good photo this morning but someone with a spit will no doubt advise; I did manage to find a kind of a schematic, but no idea how accurately it's drawn. I also found a photo of a fitted seal: does this help any?

  

[68vitesse]

You're shown as a Herald owner in your profile, this is for my Vitesse, so should be the same, sponge rubber about 15mm square, with u shape to seal against top of windscreen frame, to be glued into channel after it is screwed to soft top header.

Regards

Paul

 

 

[Colin Lindsay]

Why did I think it was a Spitfire? Early morning, no doubt.

[Pete Lewis]

even the body training book doesnt show any clues about the seal    

there s plan  Triumph always seem to manage to leave out the one small important bit you need to know 

[Colin Lindsay]

The Herald seal is just a u-shaped profile, no thick flap or thin, but both sides same profile same as Paul's photo, so the flattened square-edged side goes into the retainer rail and the U-shape clamps down onto the windscreen header.

If you can make it out from this drawing taken from Canley's site, just above and to the right of '2' it looks the same but is drawn slightly longer and 'toothier'.

 

[PeteH]

Thinking back to when I dismantled mine. I am sure I had to take the seal out of the rail to access the screws?. I think it was "glued" or bonded in and the "u" shape was on the outside?. Have you got the right profile Part?. Could be simply that being new it needs adjustment?.

Pete

 

[Colin Lindsay]

You do have to take the seal out to get at the screws / rivets of the retainer strip, but the seal can only fit one way, if you look at the shape. The 'bump' along the top of the windscreen frame fits into it for a really good seal. It's possible as you say that Dave has the wrong seal.

[68vitesse]

Need a photograph of what Dave has, otherwise just speculation.

Regards

Paul.

 

[Tipidave]

I have taken some photos. The profile is definitely not the same symmetrical form as that shown in one of the replies. 
I think that the seal was supplied by rimmer bros and came with the car when it was purchased a couple of years ago. 

I have now used some durex lube that helped to seat it in place and am hoping that it might just settle itself in (cold weather doesn’t help).

I am a little worried about the amount of tension being placed on the windscreen frame though. 

now a new issue! 

the third image is showing where the hood joins the b post of the frame on the drivers side. The stitching has torn and I am finding it difficult to re-glue. 
I do not see how I can repair the stitching... does anyone know why this has happened, how to stop it in future and what type of glue might work (have just ordered a marine two part pvc glue). 
 

once again all opinions and views greatfully received 
 

 

[Colin Lindsay]

That seal is fitted back to front / upside down... it looks like the wrong profile, strangely like a glass runner channel profile, or else it's been fitted around the rail retainer strip rather than the square profile fitted into it... what does the other side look like? Is there a groove for the seam that runs on top of the windscreen surround? I've managed to find both a seal strip and a rubber seal and made up a mockup so that you can see the way they fit it's not fully seated but should illustrate the idea.

 

[Tipidave]

Thanks for the prompt response again...That is quite different! Any idea where I can buy a strip from? 
regards

david

[PeteH]

On 29/12/2020 at 14:59, Tipidave said:

Thanks for the prompt response again...That is quite different! Any idea where I can buy a strip from? 
regards

david

Probably come under heading "usual suspects" It is shown as "Available" from Canley (606366) £8.98 each?.

https://www.canleyclassics.com/?catalogue=triumph-herald-13/60&diagram=triumph-herald-13/60-convertible-hood

Pete

[Tipidave]

Thanks for that! I will have to have a chat to see if it is the correct profile ... happy new year... I am hoping to crack on with the car whilst furloughed 😂😂