Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 Hi have got my car running after many many years of not working have problems with the petrol supply took the tank out used Bilt Harmer tank kit cleaned it reinstalled it and kept blocking from the tank have taken it out again put some petrol in it shook it and more what looks like dried fuel came out black bits that crumble in your fingers Now I’m not sure whether to try it again and see what happens ??? or jet wash the inside as best as I can ??? Driving me round the bend as not sure when it’s gonna happen again middle of a country road or on the duel carriage way !!!!!!!! thanks Mark
Pete Lewis Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 dont know what to suggest this is mk2 saloon so its the vertical tank behind the rear seats ???? a pressure wash is worth a try , but black bits ??? where are they from , how long ago did you resurface the insides ??? Pete
Paul H Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 I used the Frosts kit which adds a resin skin to the tank filling any perforations . These kits are like marmite . In my case following the instructions to the letter the kit has worked . I even had enough to complete a refurb spare tank I had acquired Paul
Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Posted April 4, 2021 Yes it’s a vertical tank the black bits when they crumble they are brown probably old petrol .The kit just cleaned it it doesn’t line it
Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Posted April 4, 2021 Don’t think the loose stuff is rust is ole dried out petrol
Pete Lewis Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 just to test check it with a magnet rust is still magnetic Ive never seem old fuel deposits so cant help with that if you look through the sender unit hole can you spot anything...how much is there ?? Pete
Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Posted April 4, 2021 Just put a magnet in it very very small amount on the magnet
Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, Woody2000 said: Just put a magnet in it very very small amount on the magnet
PeteH Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 Can you beg, borrow, steal? an endoscope for a good look?. These are cheap and cheerfull and work on I-Phone or Android?. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=Endoscopes&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItbab-4Xl7wIVEO7tCh2OBgNtEAAYASAAEgIT4_D_BwE&matchtype=e&adgroupid=105371476512&geo_id=32251&MT_ID=584406&cmpgn=10630714027&crlp=450949374169_&keyword=ybai&rlsatarget=kwd-329221437525&abcId=1140046&loc=9046251&sitelnk=&norover=1&mkrid=710-154084-937780-5&network=g&poi=&mkevt=1&adpos=&mktype=&_odkw=Ybai&device=c&mkcid=2 Pete
Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Posted April 4, 2021 Just taken picture of the loose bits had a quick look in the tank might be some more in there could I use a degreaser and boiling water to clean it out maybe ??
Pete Lewis Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 crikey thats a right mess , cant see thats any residue form fueling +1 for the coal idea looks like some sort of bitumen product like something nasty has been put in the tank Pete
Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Posted April 4, 2021 It crumbles very easily on your fingers shine my iPhone torch in the filler neck looks quite clean maybe some left in the bottom was going to try water based degreaser and boiling water and leave it to soak ??
JohnD Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 Detergents and degreasers unlikley to shift that lot! I would say the standard advice as for an enema, High, Hot and a Hell of a lot! A pressure washer into the filler tube, when the tank is upside down might was most of it out. John
PeteH Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 I have used Dishwasher Tab`s and boiling water with some success in the past on similarly "crusty" surfaces. That and the power washer??. Peter
Woody2000 Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Posted April 4, 2021 I’ll try tomorrow suppose you leave the tablets and boiling water in there for a few hours then jet wash it ?? how many tablets do you put in ?? Thanks Peter
PeteH Posted April 4, 2021 Report Posted April 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Woody2000 said: I’ll try tomorrow suppose you leave the tablets and boiling water in there for a few hours then jet wash it ?? how many tablets do you put in ?? Thanks Peter Hard to say in a 10Gall? tank. you could try 3 of 4. lots of boiling water and agitate. It certainly "moved" the crud in the Clutch Master Cyl; in my most recent usage. And that was baked on! to the point petrol would not shift it!. I think I`m lucky, The 13/60 fuel tank looks reasonably New and sound!. Pete
Nick Jones Posted April 5, 2021 Report Posted April 5, 2021 Impressively crusty!😮 Caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) available as powder for drain cleaning is very effective against fossilised hydrocarbons but won’t eat the steel tank. It might eat solder/braze and definitely will eat aluminium though. It’s what I used to clean my PI saloon tank and GT6 tank. Nick
Colin Lindsay Posted April 5, 2021 Report Posted April 5, 2021 22 hours ago, Woody2000 said: Just taken picture of the loose bits had a quick look in the tank might be some more in there could I use a degreaser and boiling water to clean it out maybe ?? Looks like someone's cannabis stash....
Nigel Clark Posted April 5, 2021 Report Posted April 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Nick Jones said: Impressively crusty!😮 Caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) available as powder for drain cleaning is very effective against fossilised hydrocarbons but won’t eat the steel tank. It might eat solder/braze and definitely will eat aluminium though. It’s what I used to clean my PI saloon tank and GT6 tank. Nick Safety warning: caustic soda is highly corrosive to human tissue. If you try using it, wear goggles and chemical resistant gloves or better still gauntlets. Any splashes must be washed immediately with lots of water. If it gets in your eyes, irrigate with lots of water and go straight to A&E. Nigel
Nick Jones Posted April 5, 2021 Report Posted April 5, 2021 Indeed..... it does say all that on the container.... Also always add powder to water, not water to powder and start with cold water, it will get plenty hot on its own. Nick
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