JohnD Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 https://lesvoitures.fr/urbex-de-superbes-triumph-en-enfer/?fbclid=IwAR1_gaWzjuzzUEPl8FLq1yq9h6-ET_i1okbDABKpd30WDvQz38ez1L5zTtc The website is in Freench, but if you are on Chrome click the translate button. Other browsers may do similar. I fear that these are lost forever, and even if they could be extracted, the bureaucratic nightmare of importing them back to the UK wiould be extreme! JOhn
DVD3500 Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 Some of them don't look too terrible to be honest... I am sure a clean up would do wonders... I don't see them mention where this is in France and they say the owners are "unknown".... Still a huge pity to be honest...
Mathew Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 Love the spot, a good clean and some fresh petrol and your good to go. Who can't remember the stories of a triumph left in the front garden for twenty years, given some fresh petrol and a jump start and driven home.
Russell1972 Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 The translation makes it a far more interesting read than a lot of online articles. 'The terms "abandoned" are not strong enough to describe this spectacle of desolation. Indeed, beyond being stored against each other, these Triumphs are far from being respected by their unknown owners.' Perhaps I should start to be more flowery with my TSSC reports. :-)
Colin Lindsay Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 Some of those will appear on eBay as "light restoration or drive as is, MOT-exempt...." That would be an amazingly nostalgic place for an afternoon's exploration.
Chris A Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 "Zut alors!", "mercredi" ou même "putain de gâchis" A nice little Covid confinement project there, not sure how the 2CV got in. In the few photos that do show number plates apart from those that aren't too damaged to read there is one that I am certain has been 'touched up' to hide the last part of the plate, which would have been the department number where the car was last registered.
JohnD Posted April 6, 2021 Author Report Posted April 6, 2021 Le Contrôle Technique en France, it applies to the vehicles from 1960, So few of the Heralds, maybe, but of the Spits or GT6s none will escape!
PeteH Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 Shame really, Notwithstanding any other consideration some of the trim and parts even are getting harder to source. I note the Trim corner pieces on the 13/60 bonnet are missing. for example?. I could well be wrong, But I thought you could still purchase a vehicle without a test certificate. But not register it?. I know they brought my (2nd) R-V from France without a Valid test, either UK nor French?. The couple who owned it in france had been living in it during the restoration of a property. It went straight to the dealer from whom I bought it. Pete
Chris A Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 59 minutes ago, JohnD said: Le Contrôle Technique en France, it applies to the vehicles from 1960, So few of the Heralds, maybe, but of the Spits or GT6s none will escape! Hate to be pedantic . . .but . . . Only "vehicles de collection" benefit from the 1960 cut off, "normale" still need one every 2 years. Vehicles de collection newer than that require a CT every 5 years ( normal is 2 years). The Spits, GT6s and I even spotted the back end of what I think was a Stag could be "collection". a car can be classed a
Chris A Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 s collection once it is 30 years old and is fairly standard, same class of engine for example - no fitting a vitesse motor into a Herald.
thescrapman Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 Apart from the fire damaged one, they all look like they could live another day
Chris A Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 There's another site that posts the same type of thing. Very annoying as they very often look as if they could be saved, or at least some bits could be.
PeteH Posted April 6, 2021 Report Posted April 6, 2021 One has to wonder what the chances of rescue would be as "scrap" Metal?. No idea how that would go under French law. Pete
Chris A Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 9 hours ago, PeteH said: One has to wonder what the chances of rescue would be as "scrap" Metal?. No idea how that would go under French law. Pete Do you mean buying them as scrap and exporting them to the UK? If so it would/could be more difficult now you are no longer in Europe. The same would apply to shipping them as cars no doubt.
DVD3500 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 Indeed the "trade deal" from 23 Dec. sounded good at first but from what I can see there are a few fine print issues to deal with. I could be wrong but based on what I am hearing from others is that the item must be "made in EU" or "Made in UK" in order to trade freely. Hornby for example of train set and Scalextric fame has stopped sending to the EU because the "made in China" on all their products doesn't seem to comply (my interpretation not fact...) It still has to however go through a customs process which usually incurs cost and paperwork. There are also some limits of 15GBP/22€, 100GBP/135€ and over 500€ that I haven't got my head around yet... Having said that, given that the items are used and were made in UK I would reckon with the correct paperwork you should be able to get them back on the island fairly easily...
Chris A Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 DVD3500: You're correct. With the proviso about the value limits, I too haven't got my head around that yet. It is made even more confusing as my wife buys lots of embroidery stuff from a firm in Scotland so far not a single centime in taxes, although the orders are quite small as a rule and mostly European manufacture, or at least not declared as other than that. The cars would count as UK manufacture I'm sure. The rules relate to the percentage of the value originating in the UK. This works for goods from the UK to the EU. The other way round ? Good question one would assume the agreement is the same but I can't swear to it, I've had no need to look it up.
PeteH Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 So. considering that it`s very likely that 99.9% of a 1960`s Triumph, would have been made in the UK, In theory it should be considered as being legit:?. Basically, all the goods are being returned to their country of origin?. Of course nothing is ever that simple!. Pete
Badwolf Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 We need to organise a 'just giving' page to repatriate all of these sad, lost, creations...well the UK ones that is.
PeteH Posted April 7, 2021 Report Posted April 7, 2021 So that takes care of the "migrants and Ex pat`s" issue. So what about the cars?. 😁 Pete
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