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this may be a bit of a wild idea ,but what would you do in jam and its  gone flat 
Pete
 
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam...  dead batteries! Then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield
wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the batteries) !!!
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!
But they cannot come to help you since all roads are blocked and the socialist green weenies will probably require all police cars to be electric also (if we still have police departments then) !!!
And when the roads become unblocked no one can move!  Their batteries are dead.
How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? (That is a business I think I’d like to look into.  Drones to deliver heavy batteries and someone to remove and install.)
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams.
There is virtually NO air conditioning in an electric vehicle.  It would drain your batteries quickly.
 
You can’t even call in horses to rescue you.  
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Solar panels on the car roof, but don't travel at night or get stuck in a traffic jam in the late evening when it may get dark???

For those of you of a certain age..."Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed"..."Let's move out"...."dinner, dinner, dinner, dinner...Batman"

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Thanks for the large print version, didn't need my glasses.... :)

Take a tip from Triumph, have a reserve lever on a small spare battery somewhere in the car... so when you finally get to move again, flip the lever and get about five miles of drive. Just enough to get to somewhere safer or a charging point.

You could even have an 'In emergencies break glass' type of switch... and make it so expensive to replace that it would be a last resort only. 

Local radio on Tuesday had callers complaining that the Motability Finance Scheme isn't enough to permit people to buy brand new electric vehicles, so they want more allowance. Given the above that's the last thing they should be wanting.

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why dont they have a ducted fan generator , to charge as you drive even a permanent mag smiths blower motor on our Commer WalkThru's had enough air to keep the engine running with the ignition off.

but no use in 30 miles of static M5 on a holiday weekend 

On an EV  i would presume ancilliary power is cut off at some point to preserve motor  power ??? or is that not considered

Pete

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7 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said:

Thanks for the large print version, didn't need my glasses.... :)

Take a tip from Triumph, have a reserve lever on a small spare battery somewhere in the car... so when you finally get to move again, flip the lever and get about five miles of drive. Just enough to get to somewhere safer or a charging point.

You could even have an 'In emergencies break glass' type of switch... and make it so expensive to replace that it would be a last resort only. 

Local radio on Tuesday had callers complaining that the Motability Finance Scheme isn't enough to permit people to buy brand new electric vehicles, so they want more allowance. Given the above that's the last thing they should be wanting.

My friend is a retired Forklift engineer.

With electric forklifts they have such a mechanism, the truck stops, and then you can activate the reserve. Trouble is the drivers will keep hitting the reserve until it simply won't move. Then go home from their shift and it is somebody elses problem...

The break glass idea is better, maybe as the 2nd reserve. But with teh tech in the cars, surely knocking the speed progressively down as zero approaches is a system to push people to recharge. However, all this will sort itself out, but the changeover period will be the tricky part

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Watched Click! on the rolling news this morning, mopeds are big in Taiwan and they cause a lot of air pollution. So they're electrifying the roads and electric mopeds get charged as they drive along.  Can't find anything about it on the InterWeb, but here's something similar in Sweden for cars. 

World's first electrified road for charging vehcharges vehicles icles opens in Sweden | Electric, hybrid and low-emission cars | The Guardian

The Swedish one works like Scalextric, but I think the Taiwan one charges like Mum's hearing aid, no wires.

Doug   

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1 hour ago, Badwolf said:

Solar panels on the car roof, but don't travel at night or get stuck in a traffic jam in the late evening when it may get dark???

For those of you of a certain age..."Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed"..."Let's move out"...."dinner, dinner, dinner, dinner...Batman"

Work mate has an electric hybrid with solar roof, on a sunny day after a 12 hour shift he gets 4 miles extra!

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I was attending a conference at University of Bath. During the lunch break, I went for a walk and noticed some strange small vehicles. They were experimental solar powered trolleys and I was asked if I would like a drive.  Of course the answer was yes and I trundled slowly along the pathway.  Then I passed a tree and the vehicle stopped, the shadow was sufficient to cut the electric power.

There used to be a race for solar powered vehicles across the Australian outback, plenty of sun and no trees!

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Pete, I'm surprised at you!    What makes you think that an EV driver will not get as much warning of a 'low energy source" as in any fossil fuel vehicle.   Yes, people run out of fuel on motorways, people who are stupid, have failed fuel gauges or are chancers.  

John

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John    i didnt write it  ...just seemed a good chat idea 

I have only run out of fuel once in my near 60 years of driving and that was a  used cars salesman ...youll be ok take it for 5 mile spin  ....idiot 

took him at his word ( WHY) and sure enough  a long walk  back    and  no i   didnt buy it   

Pete

 

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59 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Yes, people run out of fuel on motorways, people who are stupid, have failed fuel gauges or are chancers.  

John

Darling daughter drove to Belfast last night, texted me to say she had 'four miles remaining' when she got there... I'll have to have a few words.

In the late 80s I had a Rover 213S, great car with Honda engine but the needle hit the red after 450 miles per tank; on one memorable trip I missed the petrol station and got to 470 with a lot of worry... however on the M6 I drove until it was on the red... usual excuse: "I'll stop at the next Services"... until I was on fumes and found the next Service area closed... so had to drive to the next one. Odometer was on 504 miles when I got there. Great car for a chancer like me!

My Discovery ran out of diesel just as I turned the corner at the petrol station and I rolled down to the pumps which were thankfully below road level. These days I don't cut things just so fine.

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Never run out of fuel in 50 years of driving, got close with the previous Skoda in Spain a couple of years back, lots of 'middle of nowhere' driving and forgot to fill up the previous day.

Got close(ish) with my Yeti diesel earlier this year, the worry wasn't running out but the 'odd' noise when driving. I figured it must have been the pump or such as once filled no noise. Weird.

I usually top up  the modern  when it gets to 1/3. The Herald when the needle gets close to about the same or if I'm planning a long drive or at about 150 miles from the last fill. When I first got the Herald I did push it once to get the measure of its range and to check gauge accuracy. I had to switch to reserve, but as I was local and heading for petrol no problem

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4 minutes ago, Chris A said:

When I first got the Herald I did push it once to get the measure of its range and to check gauge accuracy. I had to switch to reserve, but as I was local and heading for petrol no problem

I made that mistake back in the 80`s with The Vittesse. It died as I got to the pump almost!, filled it up, NO START. (Crap!). Yes the last few yards had dragged about 20 years of detritus to the base of the Fuel feed and it would fire, run a few seconds, and stop!. Got it going after a fashion, Lumpy running, And spent the weekend taking the tank out, cleaning inside and out, and painting the outside, In the process "glassing" a rough patch and stopping a tiny drip!. Win Some lose some?.

Pete

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49 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Because I like to provoke people like you.

I'm sorry, but ignorant, rude, idiots don't annoy or provoke me, they just make me pity the people that they insult and bully more and more. I do also pity the bullies as they really think that they are being clever with their insults and put downs. In reality, all those that I have come across, and I have come across many, are small, sad people whose only big thing is their inferiority complex.

Matter closed

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Oh, and another point along the lines of PeteH's post - NEVER EVER (large print for Pete) think you're saving money by emptying the fuel out of a Herald petrol tank that you've just removed, into the tank of your modern. 

That resulted in my first ever call-out of the AA in around 1994... 

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10 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said:

Oh, and another point along the lines of PeteH's post - NEVER EVER (large print for Pete) think you're saving money by emptying the fuel out of a Herald petrol tank that you've just removed, into the tank of your modern. 

That resulted in my first ever call-out of the AA in around 1994... 

What goes in the Herald stays in the Herald!

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