68vitesse Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 An early 2L fuel pump is different from a later one, DO NOT ASK ME HOW I FOUND OUT. Should have stayed with the beer. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, 68vitesse said: An early 2L fuel pump is different from a later one, Get a Huco low pressure electric pump! Primes the carbs nicely. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 yes early ones a glass bowl type isnt it while mines a fully enclosed jobbie and I like it☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Iain T said: Get a Huco low pressure electric pump! Primes the carbs nicely. Iain Agree Huco all the way . Bought a new spare last week for £25 deld from the Bay Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, johny said: yes early ones a glass bowl type isnt it while mines a fully enclosed jobbie and I like it☺️ No, all Vitesses had glass bowl, interchangeably with tin-top on Mk3 GT6, possibly others. The early vs. late difference that matters is the 1600/2L up to HC4500 engine vs. later Mk1 and Mk2 blocks. The pump moved, so the operating arm is a different shape. My Vitesse used to be an early engine and is now a later type. The fuel pump was only one of many things that aren't compatible between the two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 Been looking at going down the electric fuel pump route using a Huco 133010, car Mk1 2L Vitesse carbs and engine standard, with an inertia cut out, any feed back on quality of current repro mechanical ones appreciated. Feel sure I have correct pump somewhere but it is doing an excellent job of hiding. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 Found the pump on the left this morning, it doesn't work, which I believe is the one for the 1600 and early 2L, the one on the right is definitely the later one. Can anyone please confirm or deny this. Many thanks Regards Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, 68vitesse said: Been looking at going down the electric fuel pump route using a Huco 133010, car Mk1 2L Vitesse carbs and engine standard, with an inertia cut out, any feed back on quality of current repro mechanical ones appreciated. Feel sure I have correct pump somewhere but it is doing an excellent job of hiding. Regards Paul He’s my repro , which didn’t work effectively so removed and went Huco Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, 68vitesse said: Found the pump on the left this morning, it doesn't work, which I believe is the one for the 1600 and early 2L, the one on the right is definitely the later one. Can anyone please confirm or deny this. Many thanks Regards Paul. I agree, Left one earlier Vitesse models Vitesse 6 & 2 Litre Mk1, right one MK2 Vitesse Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 Assuming all else is the same, and it looks to be, just knock out the roll pin and swap the levers over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: Assuming all else is the same, and it looks to be, just knock out the roll pin and swap the levers over. Detail differences i.e diaphragm the same but different diaphragm spring, reason pump not working diaphragm has set like rock also oil seal badly worn and not available, might do a mix and match as suggested. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 I've bought two or three NOS versions online that are unidentified by the seller, so very cheap, and just swapped the parts over to my GT6 pump. Many of the Delco pumps are identical bar the lever, so you can swap glass, seals and filters, and if it's only the diaphragm they can be bought separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 On going with the fuel pumps the arm with damage is a riveted laminate of three with the tip of one displaced, broken at rivet hole, wondering about a weld repair. Found another pump with a cast arm which looks the same but slightly longer and witness mark in slightly different place, inlet and outlet push on and completely wrong orientation for a Vitesse, inlet on left. Ony idea on suitability of the arm or which model the pump was fitted to. Regards Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 trouble is these AC glass top pumps were fitted to pretty much every british manufactured car of the era with small mods to suit each application you could hunt around for years on where is this from Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 The lever code number is 4474, nothing comes up for that during searches. Is there a code number on the pump body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: The lever code number is 4474, nothing comes up for that during searches. Is there a code number on the pump body? Can not see any numbers on the pumps, might need a good clean. I have two, now damaged, laminated arms one stamped as you say 4744, the other a bit indistinct 152474 both from later 2L pumps, the cast arm which looks the same marked 1524317 from an unknown pump. Google search, no relevant results. Chris Witor's website only shows laminated arm for late Mk1 and Mk2 glass topped pumps. Regards Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 we need a genuine AC Delco parts list cant call at the factory in Dunstable as its now low cost housing and their sports ground is a Tesco in fact all large manufacturers had sports grounds all lost with no recognition of thier value when we did things Right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: we need a genuine AC Delco parts list cant call at the factory in Dunstable as its now low cost housing I've been searching. I found a pre-war version and a pre-1960 version but nothing Triumph-related so far, and even the ones I did find were all American-related. I'll keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 way back i could go and knock on the door but it closes the same year i got my Vitesse 2003 i wonder if a seach as Trico would find anything >> Industry gives way to housing AC-Delco’s vast factory was a major employer in Dunstable from 1934 until its closure (as Trico Products) in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 16 hours ago, 68vitesse said: Can not see any numbers on the pumps, might need a good clean. Number will be on the underside: Not much use at present without a reference catalogue... but one will turn up. There are plenty of unidentified Delcos online, some from about £4.95 so identifying their application would be a little goldmine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Unknown pump base stamped E10 39 top just marked made in England. Late Mk1 pumps, one marked 8B216 the other numbers not readable as feint and partly removed when base was drilled and tapped so done before final machining, both tops marked type U. Removed the most worn oil seal, the retaining cup is reusable and the seal just two disc's of what appear to be pump diaphragm material with a centre hole punched in them. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 that numbering has the ring of a year /month /week /number produced/week number type of code pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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