Is it time to review the ranking system?

[dougbgt6]

I have in the past got a few laughs out the ranking system, should Pete the Grand Master’s next rank be the Mighty Mecon? Should Pete now call  Colin, Mini Me? 

Ranking was an indication of Triumph knowledge, ability to help and experience. It gave the newbie a rough indication of what the person commenting knows about Triumphs.

Ranking appears to be based on the number of posts, but it now seems you can climbing up the rankings without offering  any constructive Triumph help at all.

I think this system should be reviewed, find a way to get it back on track as mark of help and experience. Or, if we can’t manage that, scrap it, because we are loosing credibility.

Doug

 

 

 

[Anglefire]

You have a choice as a forum.

Lock it down to be only about triumphs and their upkeep repair and social events. 

Or you don't. 

The first will kill it quicker than a hungry fox in a hen house. I for one won't come here very often if that is the case. 

Keeping it civil and an element of fun will keep it going.

But perhaps politics and religion should be banned. Including in the joke section.

And does anyone seriously look at post count and rank for experience? Takes about 2 minutes to look in the technical sections to work it out. Many people on here have experience and post little - or have experience in a small area and not others. 

 

 

[Badwolf]

Doug - You wouldn't be referring to all the current none Triumph, none humerous, self indulgent, 'here I am yet again' cr*p being posted on what was once a highly respected Triumph forum would you??

[dougbgt6]

20 minutes ago, Anglefire said:

And does anyone seriously look at post count and rank for experience?

AF I think newbies do.

As for the rest of what you say you’re talking about the issue BW’s talking about and how the actions to resolve it might pan out. 

I’m talking about a misleading system that is starting to not do what was intended.

Doug

[Pete Lewis]

i reckon the lastest bunch of Me Me Me posts would be better suited to facebook 

there is plenty of light hearted banter (was) without all the blitz and in youre face non car related with more answers to ones self than we have ever encountered over the years 

change is good but the shouting and bold typo's and imoges  is against the liking of too many on here 

Im fed up with  being  e mailed what the !!! is going on 

any one with thoughts on where this is going should report to the administrators  all available from the report box in the  3 dots

or click staff in the header 

its not me 

Pete 

[JohnD]

Oh, ye gods, do we have to have censors?    The US sites are bad enough, absolutely NO POLITICS (they can shoot you, you know!) and an Old Maidish attitude to bad language, so  extreme as to get me banned for using the word "bullshit".  I was told that chil;dren used the site, as if that wasn't one of the first they learn in the playground!

Moderators, yes, to ensure that we do not exceed the bounds of semi-polite conversation, but not censors, please!

JOhn

[Mark Seniac]

Oh dear here we go again ... 

firstly I agree with this comment...

“Keeping it civil and an element of fun will keep it going.”

“But perhaps politics and religion should be banned. Including in the joke section.”

secondly I agree too much banter in the early stages was over the top for some of you guys but that’s the world of social media... it’s fast and moving... 

thirdly I agree the ranking system is weirdly set up ...

fourth I agree some people would think 51 was placed/created for content like mine but I never asked  for it and my deleted threads/posts were re instated and put in there ? 
5 I have had an amazing time on here during the early stages great content and great advice BUT I say too you all there are members who probably look for content just too troll it should it not fit into there box and people like that will slow the progress of this club there’s no way we as a club would survive in the big world of social media if members behaved in the way I’ve experienced here over the past month or two.

all my posts and threads and interactions can be scrutinised by the club as they did the last time and I can assure everyone that every interaction has been polite and not solicited in a TROLL manner as has been implied so without further ado I say GOODBYE to this club and the many GOOD people I have met and interacted with and I look forward too a new era where people’s interactions are met without hate nor grievance..... 

thankyou

Mark 

it’s been emotional........❤️

[PeteH]

I don`t suppose it would help, to take the "off topic" postings out of the count? At a personal level If it concerned me I could find stuff to post, just for the sake of it, I often read a post without responding anyway maybe just a "like". The issue there would be "who" does the Cull? and how much time/effort would be required. I`m probably as guilty as any making or responding to an "off topic" thread. Some are quite enlightening, other I supose somewhat self indulgent. In the final analysis, one can always just move on to a different subject?.

Pete

[dougbgt6]

8 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Oh, ye gods, do we have to have censors?

Uh, don’t think anybody asked for censors? 

[dougbgt6]

4 minutes ago, Mark Seniac said:

but that’s the world of social media... it’s fast and moving... 

OMG! I didn’t know we were social media!!

I think therein lies the problem. 
 

Doug 

[Pete Lewis]

mark all you need to do is quieten the shout typing 

and as a side you even posted a' like'  to scrappy when he was leaving and going to CT   what was that all about  ??

both good clubs all with variations on content and likes in how they support classics .

there is a fundamental oddity in you reply to your own posts far far   more than others do , 

there is no witch hunt but the   output is too loud      for me 

your  car posts have the normal expected replies  from a range of contributors ..it works 

its your decision to depart , but a little calmer input would save the day 

past experience i was a moderator for 5 years and ran the lost forum so treading on eggshells never works 

Im not a moderator now but a long standing contributor 

its not everyone but your self is out of step  

we dont want censorship head count post count    just a bit of rational works wonders 

pete

 

 

 

pete 

[Badwolf]

Gentlemen - I have a simple statement to make/question to ask. Three weeks (ish) ago all was well and mostly in harmony on this site. Now there is bad feeling, (yes some of it from me), and animosity. The question is, what happened in that period of time to change this. You don't need to post a reply, answer it in your own heart and act accordingly.

[Mark Seniac]

5 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said:

mark all you need to do is quieten the shout typing 

and as a side you even posted a' like'  to scrappy when he was leaving and going to CT   what was that all about  ??

both good clubs all with variations on content and likes in how they support classics .

there is a fundamental oddity in you reply to your own posts far far   more than others do , 

there is no witch hunt but the   output is too loud      for me 

your  car posts have the normal expected replies  from a range of contributors ..it works 

its your decision to depart , but a little calmer input would save the day 

past experience i was a moderator for 5 years and ran the lost forum so treading on eggshells never works 

Im not a moderator now but a long standing contributor 

its not everyone but your self is out of step  

we dont want censorship head count post count    just a bit of rational works wonders 

pete

 

 

 

pete 

Hi Pete don’t know what ct is ? And there’s more to “scrappy” comment than just that and I was generalising his comment I don’t take sides... you say you were a moderator would you have stood for a comment made when talking to someone about your departed father and his collection of cars as “childish prattle” I don’t think so ! 

And as a note I did notice you mentioned last time there was an outburst about answering posts I didn’t realise you had too quote the reply once I knew this then as you’ll see I know and have done for a while quote via the reply quote button... lol that sounds confusing but I think you know what I mean .... 

anyway football ? What’s the problem. National game as is cricket rugby motor racing etc etc .... 

people don’t like bold print ? It’s not shouting it’s highlighting a word.... 

now as an ex moderator you know as well as me I’ve been respectful and forthcoming on all areas of the forum .. I’ve seen you liking things that are derogatory too me but then you answer my posts as if butter wouldn’t melt and yet I still respectfully reply too you. 
with that all said I feel I’ve got too know your input on this forum and you are well respected any question asked your the first too reply with in-depth knowledge you sir are a credit too this forum and I do wish you well .... 

As for a couple of others well what can I say even with the intervention of the club’s moderators who had a great response too the last fall out all I can say is boo hoo and they should remember the club is bigger and better than any member past or even present. 
with the upmost respect 

Mark

 

[Anglefire]

2 hours ago, dougbgt6 said:

AF I think newbies do  

Doug

They may to a degree. But I’m the main they would look at the particular section they are interested in and do a search.  
 

or at least I did. 
 

I moderated plenty of forums and even Facebook groups. And the numbering system does get to be more of a thing to aim at rather than be anything of significant use. 

[Pete Lewis]

CT is CLUB TRIUMPH    if youve had a triumpf for a while it would have appeared in odd searches https://www.clubtriumph.co.uk/

its a much smaller membership and very few local area meets compare to TSSC  just now has the same forum format 

and they specialise in long drives /tours 

many on here are in both or other clubs to gain all the benefits available 

Pete

[Colin Lindsay]

3 hours ago, dougbgt6 said:

Ranking was an indication of Triumph knowledge, ability to help and experience. It gave the newbie a rough indication of what the person commenting knows about Triumphs.

Ranking appears to be based on the number of posts, but it now seems you can climbing up the rankings without offering  any constructive Triumph help at all.

I think this system should be reviewed, find a way to get it back on track as mark of help and experience. Or, if we can’t manage that, scrap it, because we are loosing credibility.

Doug

I for one never worried about it; we have a lot of good posters on here who post rarely but when they do, it's solid. We also have a lot of hands-on owners out there who again rarely post, but when they do it's a genuine cry for information or spare parts, or a very helpful post on various techniques or tools. 

It's interesting that a poster can post an entire 'how-to' with an in-depth guide and photos, another will post a link to another site with the same info, and a third will agree and post "+1" All three count as a post. I'm not envious of high posters (well I can't really be, can I   ) but I'm not scornful of low posters either as I know it's quality not quantity that counts. I like a good discussion, usually get into a debate on the best way to do various things, I'm always thinking out loud on here and like the banter. That's where most of my posts come from and the corresponding rank. Going by the user names we have some members very active on numerous other forums; I'm not - this is the only one I visit or post on. 

I don't go by the rank of anyone who posts, I go by what advice or help they give and that's the important thing. I wouldn't miss the rank system at all but I'd miss the assistance if we lost posters because of it.

I've mentioned the BT Forum before - Mister "try turning your router off and back on again", ranked as a 'Forum Guru' now has over 18000 posts, all with that same reply, which he posts in response to every query. I'd hardly call him an expert...

[dougbgt6]

1 hour ago, Anglefire said:

But I’m the main they would look at the particular section they are interested in and do a search.  

I’ve been on this forum from the beginning and for a while I was unaware  there were sub sections. 

I find that whole sub section forums  an encumbrance. When you go down the pub with your Area  do you start,

“Engines, I’ve got a misfire” 

“No, no, that’s electrical” 

“Sorry electrical, I’ve got a misfire”

”No, no, it’s fuel”

Sorry, fuel, I’ve got a misfire”

No ya don’t! You say “I’ve got a misfire!”

Should be the same here, I’m all for scrapping sub forums, just confuses people. Certainly confuses me.

Doug

[dougbgt6]

Colin,

You’ve been here a long time, same as me, we know how it works. I keep harping back to the newbies, no posts, looking for help. It should be simple and transparent, it ain’t.

Doug

[Clive]

9 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said:

I’ve been on this forum from the beginning and for a while I was unaware  there were sub sections. 

I find that whole sub section forums  an encumbrance. When you go down the pub with your Area  do you start,

“Engines, I’ve got a misfire” 

“No, no, that’s electrical” 

“Sorry electrical, I’ve got a misfire”

”No, no, it’s fuel”

Sorry, fuel, I’ve got a misfire”

No ya don’t! You say “I’ve got a misfire!”

Should be the same here, I’m all for scrapping sub forums, just confuses people. Certainly confuses me.

Doug

When I was sorting the new CT forum, I wanted just a single "technical" section, then the other usual ones (banter, members only etc) but people constantly asked for them to be split up. In reality I still think it serves little purpose, especially splitting into models (a GT6 engine is the same as a vitesse, TR5/6, 2000/2.5, and many many similarities with teh 4 cylinder engines. And that is just the start....)

Besides, most people tend to look at unread posts, irrespective of there they are on the forum. 

KISS....

[dougbgt6]

Clive,

You talk a lot of sense, I always said so. 😊

Doug

[Paulfc]

All,

But to address the elephant in the room……… until just a few weeks ago all (well pretty much all) of the posts, almost without exception, were “car” related and certainly I gleaned much useful information and have increased my knowledge levels enormously and I enjoyed some of the jokes and even contributed occasionally. Then, “BANG!”, it starts to change and we all know why. Personally, I’ll deal with it as there’s enough functionality in the software to filter out what/who I don’t want to engage with and also long enough in the tooth to manage my own emotions.

However, all that said, as a wise man once muttered, “It only takes one…….”

On the question of rankings, since I was elevated to Expert - where on earth did that come from? - I’ve had a permanent smile on my face but please don’t anyone ask me anything! The shear quality of the majority of responses soon makes it clear who knows what on here, and, thank you, thank you, thank you to those of whatever rank who have helped, and hopefully will continue to help me enjoy my cars and through them life in general.

Paul

[Pete Lewis]

well said  

Pete

[Chris A]

I joined his forum after I bought my Herald, the reasons were simple - help, advice and background information. All of which I got and still continue to get. I do look at threads that aren't necessarily Herald based if I think they might add to my knowledge.

In addition to my reasons for joining I get the 'free extras', humour, social interaction and even the risky topics of politics and religion. Ok, so just very occasionally there is a bit of 'unpleasantness' a small price to pay.

What to ban? Difficult to decide and varies from person to person. I would say leave it all in and let the reader pick what to look at and what to skip.

As for the ranking system, well having a newbie title for a while does give others a warning that the poster might need a simpler explanation or additional info to a more experienced owner.

The number of posts and other titles? A bit of fun and about as serious as astrology.

Hang on, we don't have that as a sub section.

" This week the stars warn us that Heralds first registered in July will have an encounter with a breakdown recovery vehicle. On the other hand GT6s with the same star sign will give out a warm feeling to their drivers".

[Colin Lindsay]

14 hours ago, Chris A said:

A bit of fun and about as serious as astrology.

Hang on, we don't have that as a sub section.

" This week the stars warn us that Heralds first registered in July will have an encounter with a breakdown recovery vehicle. On the other hand GT6s with the same star sign will give out a warm feeling to their drivers".

"You will meet a tall dark stranger. He will hand you a speeding ticket."

[Badwolf]

Chris - Have you been at the cognac and cigars again?

Personally the sub headings don't mean anything to me. I read most posts (well, as long as they are vaguely sensible) as I never know when someone has a problem which comes into my realm. Say Vitesse tyres, may lead to a supplier which stocks Spitfire tyres etc etc. Also the search engine is very useful. As for the forum in general, for me it started four years ago with a leaking water pump, no one to turn to, and a reply from someone called Mr Lindley (or something like that), nice bloke, has loads of cars, never met him, from...er...Iceland or somewhere off shore like that!!!!! It started my restoration thread which went out of control, people even started reading it for reasons best known to them, but not to me. It takes all sorts and goes to prove that my problems are everyone's problems and that there is someone HERE who will help. Long may it be so.