GT6 Mk1. To buy? At £22k?

[chrishawley]

If I sold some of my other stuff I'd be interested in a Mk1 GT6. So the following offering caught my eye.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154565548086?hash=item23fcd31836:g:WoIAAOSwSwthE6g9

But it's a long way from where I am just to have a look. So would anybody have any suggestions on whether it might be worth a punt at around that price point. Or at least might be worth a look.

Obviously eBay photos only say so much but any thoughts would be helpful. For 20k+ I'd expect a GT6 to be in very well sorted condition without any remedial, significant,  mechanical or bodywork matters to put right. Is this realistic?

 

Cheers

C

[dougbgt6]

The bonnet isn't on right, it doesn't sit on the sills properly. I suspect they've been replaced, which isn't in itself an issue but it's not been done right.  Have the lower part of the door and the sills been painted? This is/was a common way to avoid a re-spray and a bit of a bodge. Maybe it's just a shadow. Why are the wipers parked vertically? Doesn't the auto-park work or maybe auto-park is off the windscreen, not a good look! Why no engine pics, no interior pics? 

Personally I don't like the colour, Battleship Grey? OK on a modern, but this is a Triumph! And he can keep the wire wheels.

Doug

[Pete Lewis]

well thats heading at top A1+ as insurance valuation  so soemones on the gain

bolt on wires   Yuk  but at least no adaptor problems  , why doesnt either door shut  both are open 

agree interior and eng bay photo's are needed  or is there something to hide 

always worries me when you get all this dribble about a cars provenance and previous wonderous wonders

its  awaffle not an honest appraisal 

it may be tidy but thats all  not a £22 car 

Pete

[Dick Twitchen]

Quite where he gets 'only 17 in the UK' from I know not; from memory and given the vagaries of DVLA records I think there are about 50 on the road out of 100 left.  I think it is a shadow line on the doors but the front valance is not aligned correctly.

Dick 

[Nick Jones]

No way is that a £ 22k car.  Panel fit is dire and no pics of interior or engine bay.

Mind you, this one is even more...

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1350464

World's gone mad; I've just found 3 Mk3s on Car and Classic priced over £25k..... and a Vitesse Mk2 CV for £30k.... 

Nick

[NonMember]

5 hours ago, Dick Twitchen said:

Quite where he gets 'only 17 in the UK' from I know not;

It's a (possibly deliberate) misreading of the stats, because the classification is mostly by year not by mark, so given the right search term you can make your badly bodged shed look really rare and valuable.

[chrishawley]

Many thanks for plain-speaking views. That makes my mind up which is a firm 'no'. And DVLA MOT check shows no MOT so that's the coffin lid firmly nailed down.

Much as I fancy a Mk1 it's hardly a life-crisis not to have one so I'll just wait for something to come up in the Courier over the next year or so.

Thanks again.

[Colin Lindsay]

Panel fit terrible, wheels terrible, no engine or dashboard / interior shots and I'm not a fan of the colour either. You're right, one will come along soon and for a more reasonable price too.

[DVD3500]

Here in Germany people are unloading their cars they got as a Covid projects plus the weather is getting worse...

I would hold out too...

[Badwolf]

Listing now pulled due to 'error in the listing'. From everyone's comments, possibly an understatement. I thought my shut lines were poor. Not half as bad as those. I think the seller was trying to mimic the Aston DB5, James Bond style with his photos, but not impressed.

[Colin Lindsay]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154578930782?hash=item23fd9f4c5e:g:WoIAAOSwSwthE6g9

Well it's back, but reduced.

[Paul H]

56 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154578930782?hash=item23fd9f4c5e:g:WoIAAOSwSwthE6g9

Well it's back, but reduced.

It’s received a bid 

Paul

 

[avivalasvegas]

If you think that's high, take a look at this one. 

Based on recent sale prices, cared for Mk2 examples have crossed well into the £25K+ range, so a MK1 should command upwards of £20K. Given how scare they are, I wouldn't be surprised if these prices continued to rise just as rapidly. 

[Bob Horner]

Cheap borrowed money and idiots who don’t know enough buying them means a high price is always possible.  That’s absolutely shocking panel fit and would cost a few grand to sort at a specialist.  Dread to think how naff the interior will be.  Still, good car to get you to a Michelin starred restaurant!  At least it means you’ll be used to paying for pretentious overpriced crap! 
Bob

[PeteH]

Old Yorksire War Cry. "How F***ing Much"!!!!!.

Pete

[Badwolf]

Interesting range of items and comments in the vendor's feedback.

Over breakfast this morning, I had a close look at the vendor's photos at high magnification and I can't help but think that there is something dreadfully wrong with this car. Just from a cosmetic view. There looks to be paint missing off the bonnet, the chrome looks tarnished (front LH wing & over-rider), front grill is marked, number plate badly bent and missing the middle of the 0. The shut lines have previously been mentioned, the LH headlight rim looks to be pointing upwards. Also the front lower valance is bent (doesn't follow the lines of the bumper. I suspect that this has been in a shunt at some point. As also mentioned previously, no engine or interior pictures. We won't talk about any possibity of sand or salt damage. There is already one vehicle parked out at sea in his pictures!! No wonder he dropped his price. It will be interesting l see if the bidder relists it in the future (JWV120F for future reference). By the way, according to the DVLC, it is red not silver and sorned so I question how he is legally driving it or why he is servicing it regularly as it shouldn't even be on the road!!!

[Badwolf]

Just for devilment, I messaged the seller to ask why the DVLA had the car listed as red, how had he regularly driven it to the club restaurant when it was registered as a SORN, why was it listed as a Jaguar GT6, and had it been in an accident. He messaged me back asking for my phone number so that he could explain personally!!! I will leave any contemplation of these facts to you.

By the way, he also has a Merc currently listed..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154577640393?hash=item23fd8b9bc9:g:ioYAAOSwOlZhIBDK

[dougbgt6]

BW,

Did you look at the MOT record?!!!

In 2013 it failed as dangerous, 13 separate fail notifications including  extensive rust around suspension mountings, inadequate body work repairs, electrical faults and steering. However it passed 2 months later. To get it done in 2 months seems a herculean task.  

In 2015, 2016, 2017 it had advisories for n/s front trunnion 2017 was it's last MOT. Would any of us, having got a trunnion advisory, just leave it?!! I'm very suspicious it STILL has a trunnion problem.

Doug

[Badwolf]

Doug - Just had a look now. All those faults after 2,748 miles? Then  after two years laid up it does over 35,000 miles. I hope the bidders check this one over thoroughly. The listing is dubious to say the least. Only 17 left in the UK, yes 17 currently licensed with another 12 under sorn. If I could report this, I would as someone is going to get shafted!! 

[Clive]

41 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said:

BW,

Did you look at the MOT record?!!!

In 2013 it failed as dangerous, 13 separate fail notifications including  extensive rust around suspension mountings, inadequate body work repairs, electrical faults and steering. However it passed 2 months later. To get it done in 2 months seems a herculean task.  

In 2015, 2016, 2017 it had advisories for n/s front trunnion 2017 was it's last MOT. Would any of us, having got a trunnion advisory, just leave it?!! I'm very suspicious it STILL has a trunnion problem.

Doug

The welding may have been straightforward, and fixable in a few hours. Wiring fixed by a few cable ties, horn, fit a £10 one. Brake, adjust. But all signs that things ar not ideal. More of a concern is the lack of current/recent MoT. And questionable differences regarding its colour etc.

I remember my sisters Fiesta, failed on a wiper and a hole in the sill. They had it back 90 mins later fixed, not painted (so they could see it was properly welded) but all done and passed. And it was 10 mins each way to the MoT station....

[KevinR]

31 minutes ago, Badwolf said:

 Only 17 left in the UK, yes 17 currently licensed with another 12 under sorn. 

And how many others that were taken off the road before SORN was required

My MK1 was last taxed in 1986 - its been off the road for more than double the time it was on the road.

[Paul H]

Might have got a mate to front the bid hoping the lambs will follow , it’s cheap selling fees in relation to its selling price £45 if I’ve read it correctly 

Paul 

[Badwolf]

If you read his spiel on the Merc listing, it doesn't tie up with the stuff on the GT6 listing.

[dougbgt6]

1 hour ago, KevinR said:

And how many others that were taken off the road before SORN was required

Mine was! I actually wrote to them and asked is this OK? They said "Yes" However, it was changed a couple of years ago, your car can now only legally be SORN or taxed. Or seized and crushed! 

I would strongly advise anyone whose car isn't taxed or SORN to sort it out, SORN costs nothing.

The figures 17 licenced and 12 SORN come from the "How Many Left" web site. Under the "years" button it shows 17 and 12 for the year 1967, which would be GT6 MK1s. The fact that it's cobblers can be seen by looking at 1972, the peak registration year for MK3s, according to them 137 and 85.  How does this equates to the taxed/SORN button which shows currently 1081 and 783? Doesn't compute! 

1 hour ago, clive said:

The welding may have been straightforward, and fixable in a few hours. Wiring fixed by a few cable ties, horn, fit a £10 one. Brake, adjust.

Clive, are you available, I have a few outstanding jobs on my GT6. 

When my daughter said she wanted the GT6 for her wedding car it took me 7 months working most days to get it up to MOT standard.

Doug

[Clive]

10 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said:

Mine was! I actually wrote to them and asked is this OK? They said "Yes" However, it was changed a couple of years ago, your car can now only legally be SORN or taxed. Or seized and crushed! 

I would strongly advise anyone whose car isn't taxed or SORN to sort it out, SORN costs nothing.

The figures 17 licenced and 12 SORN come from the "How Many Left" web site. Under the "years" button it shows 17 and 12 for the year 1967, which would be GT6 MK1s. The fact that it's cobblers can be seen by looking at 1972, the peak registration year for MK3s, according to them 137 and 85.  How does this equates to the taxed/SORN button which shows currently 1081 and 783? Doesn't compute! 

Clive, are you available, I have a few outstanding jobs on my GT6. 

When my daughter said she wanted the GT6 for her wedding car it took me 7 months working most days to get it up to MOT standard.

Doug

I need to he inspired to work quickly these days. I can, but rarely want to.