Gary Flinn
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When the Rotoflex couplings normally fail the rubber starts to perish, crack, split and pull away from the bonded metal sections?
If this isn't happening chances are they should be Ok?
The only way to check the spring is to remove and make sure the dimensions are as previoulsy stated, if its an original spring it should have the part number stamped on the top leaf as stated above.
I've recently swopped the repro spring on my Vitesse for a refurbished original and it was well worth the effort
The Car sits and rides far better!
you will need a Spring lifting tool to remove it though, refer to the workshop manual for the best procedure.
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Anything been resolved yet with Tex on the Wiper Blades?
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It could be a Mk1 2 Litre Vitesse Spring or a Herald Saloon one?
You need to remove it and check the dimensions eye to eye and also from the floor to the underside of the bottom leaf and check against the data above.
I wouldn't recommend running the car with the incorrect spring, you may ruin the Rotoflex couplings!
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Agree with Kevin
A MK2 Vitesse Engine should be between HC50001HE up to around HC58200HE for the engine number for a Uk Car?
I think the abreviation LE was used at the end for Low Compression (Used for certain Export countries)
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Quite a few differences, Head, Cam, Inlet Manifold, Exhaust, Etc and not easy to fit the MK2 Head with the larger studs?
If the Vitesse is a Mk1 2 Litre with the original engine and it's OK then leave it.
The Mk2 engine is slightly more powerfull and Revy but not dramatically so?
The Mk1 Engine is smoother than the Mk2.
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Yes this is very common I'm afraid, it's leaking on the oilway that feeds the Rockers from the Camshaft Scroll?
I have heard of people machine/drilling a small recess in the block around the oilway for a Rubber 'O' ring to prevent leaks.
I tried a smear of blue Hylomar around the oil way when rebuilding my Vitesse Engine but it didn't work, although the leak is only very slight.
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Finally fitted the Refurbished rear spring at the weekend, well worth all the effort the ride is far better
Next job some decent wiper blades?
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Pete
I wasn't sure on the Bolts, thanks for clarifying.
I did have a 1600 Gear Box once, had it stripped down by a mate and the Layshaft Cluster and a few other useable gears sent out to a guy in the USA, don't know if he ever used the partson his car though
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I would still suggest you get a proper Mk2 Spring, you may find the Rotoflex couplings will be damaged and fail?
Replacing them is a full strip down and not a 5 minute job!
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Do you have the earlier Vitesse '6' Gearbox?
If so and you want the reversing light to work you will need to swap over the Reversing light switch and bracket fixed to the remote change fixing bolts (The Vitesse '6' didin't have reversing lights as standard?), it should swop over ok though?
I'm not sure on this, but you may also have to swop over the rear drive Flange for the connection to the prop if it's an early 1962-1966 Box, the Vitesse '6' may have 5/16" UNF Bolts instead of the 2 Litre's 3/8" UNF Bolts.
As stated by Pete, the 1600 Box is not as strong as the later 2 Litre Gearbox (The 2 Litre box isn't renowed for its strength either!!)
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Thanks Kevin
Sounds straight forward, a colleague had suggested that I would need a "spring de-tensioning" tool/lever but this is obviously notthe case
bob
The Spring lifting tool is only required with the Rotoflex type rear suspension, funnily enough I was using one to replace the Rear Spring on my Mk2 Vitesse on Saturday!
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I have my own supply of NOS Trico blades/inserts for my car. Although it seldom gets driven in the rain, they work fine.
Mark
Any spare ones Mark?
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A refurbished rear spring!
Finally fitted it yesterday after 8 months of waiting!!
Well worth it though, the ride is much improved with the Koni Rear Dampers no doubt helping too?
Next job to try and find some decent Wiper Blades that clear the screen properly?
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A lot of panels come from Fitchetts, they bought some of the original Triumph Press tools back in the sell off in the late 70's early 80's.
I bought a wing for my Vitesse back in 1984, from kippings, not sure off the original manufacturer though?
The fit with the front of the door was poor, the curve on the back edge was insufficent
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Mine's going to get started (Hopefully) the first time in 2015!
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It is the earth for your Horn, connect to the Steering Rack U clamp bolt, clean the paint off to ensure a good electrical connection .
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Here's a close up of the Leaf Clamps, if you have the Correct sping it should have the Part Number 308485 stamped on the top small Leaf?
My spring had the Word "Cocker" also stamped adjacent, which I believe was the Original Sheffield based Spring Manufacturer?
Hope you get it sorted.
Regards
Gary
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Managed to post an Image (Thanks Kevin) Heres a pic of my Refurbished Original Mk2 Vitesse Spring?
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Kevin
I've managed to download the Spring picture to the Gallery under my name, how do I link it to this Post?
Gary
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I doubt you have a Mk2 Vitesse spring fitted with those standard outer Leaf 'U' Clamps with bolts?
The outer Leaf clamps on the Mk2 Vitesse are thick steel wrap around type, I'd post a picture if I new how to shrink it enough!!
The profile of the spring is also different to suit the Lower Wishbones fitted with the Rotaflex Mk2 suspension
If you go on the Club Triumph Website you will see some pictures of when I refurbished an original Mk2 Vitesse Spring, if you do a search in the Herald/Vitesse Section you should find pictures, it's in the "What have you done to your Triumph" posts, around page 95, you should be able to make out what I'm on about with regards to the Leaf clamps?
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I've just completed this conversion myself, have a look on the Koni Rear Dampers post on this section for details of what's involved?
I'm hoping to get my Refurbished spring fitted over the Christmas break, weather permitting
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Hope all TSSC members have a very Merry Christmas and a happy new year
If anyone fancies a run out in there Classic on Sunday the 4th see the TSSC Home page for details of the Notts/Derwent Valley areas new year run.
I'm hoping to be there in the Vitesse.
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Glad the stats heloed, but doubt if you could read them!
Never found a good way of posting that information on a website.
has to be a picture and this blasted site with its measly pic allowance won't let me.
The pic is only 46kB and it's "too big"
Jhn
Had the same problem John trying to post the Canley rear suspension drawing, shrunk it to 15Kb but still too large?
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Eye to Eye Length should be 1014mm unfitted and the height from the underside of the bottom leaf to the Floor when the spring is resting on the floor in its normal position is 165mm.
go to Canley Classics Website to have a look at the Mk2 Rear Suspension and the rear spring leaf clamps (Can't download the pic its too big?)
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Went to our local meet on Tuesday (Derwent Valley Area), it sounds like we're heading for Last of the Summer Wine country, Holmfirth in South Yorkshire for drive it day in April?
What have all you area's got planned?