Roger

Confirmed with parts from a very early 1966 Vitesse 2-liter...

You are quite right! I must have been very tired when I compared the parts...

Thanks, its still on the HC block, Will remove it from the HC engine tomorrow and try to use it on the MB engine.

Removed the clutch and flywheels from both engines today. Got the Mk II Vitesse flywheel from Canleys a while ago and it seems to fit (indeed a lot heavier flywheel on the Saloon). My only problem now (I hope!!!) is the rear engine plate as you mention Pete. Incredible, I now have FOUR Triumph six pot engines in my possession after driving around Scandinavia TWICE, probably a lot longer distance than RBRR and I STILL dont have all the parts I need to build my engine 😣 But I noticed that Rimmers sell both the front engine plate (used and aluminium) and also the back plate. My concern is will it fit? My gearbox from 1966 has number HC585. Does anyone know if they also changeg gearbox design from HC4500? That back plate is expensive and it has to travel a long distance + customs... I tried to compared the HC backplate with the Mk II Saloon plate I have by putting them on top of each other and there are a lot of holes missing in the Mk II plate. Any advice much appreciated as always. Rimmers engine back plate

I actually have a Vitesse Mk II flywheel that I bought from Canley Classics, so then I should have all the parts I need! Thanks again.

Thanks, I apreciate this info so that i don't have to "learn the hard way"! I also have two Mk II engines. One MG (PI from -74) and one ME-engine also from a 2000 Saloon. Does anyone know if the front plate from a Mk II will fit a Mk I block? If not , I will try to cut of the saloon engine mounts on the MB. I have no idea how to solve the flywheel / clutch issue though with the components I have... I was hoping that I could use the gearbox from the HC engine on my MB engine but don't know which clutch will fit. Thanks again for this very useful information. Roger

Yes, I beleive my HC engine has smaller diameter crank, and the MB engine is a later version of the Mk I (not bossless) so will be interesting to see what can be used. I also have a MkII MG-engine (PI) which might be useful. Thanks everyone for your advice, it helps a lot. Roger

My HC-engine has number 643 so definitely an early example from October 1966. Some PO has made the number om my MB engine impossible to read, but I'm quite sure it is one of the later versions. I have both engines on the floor nex to each other so I guess I will just have to compare parts and see what will fit. It will be an interesting jigsaw puzzle!

Thanks Pete, I have just started to move parts from HC to MB engine so I will probably have a lot of questions which parts to use later on.

Finally some progress...

Thanks Colin, good news. I assume even cheap seals can be ok, but they are so cheap it makes me suspisious!

Hello Roger, I assume it is the rear output oil seal that is my main problem, but I will replace all seals that I get access to without taking the gearbox apart completely. Thanks for the tips above, I have to do a closer inspection of that area. I just got it out so haven't taken anything apart yet.

Hi All! Vitesse 2-Litre 1966: I’m replacing my cracked HC-engine with an MB-engine from a 2000 Saloon that I found in Sweden. I hope that the gearbox from my (early) HC-engine will fit without problems on the MB-engine, I think it will. I did not have any problems with neither gearbox nor clutch before exept the fact that it was leaking oil really bad. So my plan is to only replace the oil seals and anything else needed in order to prevent leaking. I noticed that Rimmers have the oil seals and they only cost a few ponds. Normally I would not complain that the price is too low, but given the fact that it is such a pain to remove an engine and a gearbox I really want to buy good quality oil seals so that I don’t have to do it again in a year or two. Any recommendations would be appreciated. What supplier would you recommend for oil seals? Has anyone successfully used SKF or other "expensive stuff"? If so what part number? I wish I could do as Paula and take my gearbox to uncle Pete and get some of that magic fairy dust sprinkled over it, but that would be a long trip!

The magnet can not have any detrimental impact on the filter performance that I can think of (?). No harm done by using one. And it will catch a lot of those ”dust metal particles” (less than 0,01 mm) that otherwise would pass the filter. Ten microns is certainly not much, but metal particles in the oil will never improve the durability of an engine no matter how small they are. Ten microns is indeed a small particle, but if you have fifty billion particles all less than 0,01 mm in the oil sump then they too becomes a problem.

Welcome to the forum Clive!

You could try to order a certificate from BMIHT, but they seem to have some delays now due to the virus. BMIHT Certificate

I was hoping that I can use the backplate from my original HC-engine.

and that is not a joke...

No hangover what so ever! I'm too old for dancing on Volvos until the sun goes up. Those days are over 🙂 Just white wine with some salmon, herring and fresh potatos, got up at 7 AM this morning

No, I do NOT eat surströmming! But you can buy it in the supermarket here. They mostly eat it in the northern part of Sweden and you should drink milk and eat it on knäckebröd (hard bread). They claim that the taste is not as bad at all as the smell. But it beats me how they can eat it without feeling the smell... There are plenty of entertaining videos on Youtube with people trying to eat it (mostly Americans, and even Gordon Ramsay had a go at it). Now I will go to my garage and mix some oil and white spirit...

Great beer but not strong enough for seized pistons. Vodka is indeed produced here but you wont find it on the internet.... 😉 http://www.stallhagen.com/en/

Crayfish, herring, salmon, beer fresh potatos, vodka, surströmming (fermented fish, google people trying to eat it...). It's obvious we are related to the vikings, midsommar usually involves things like dancing on the roof of a rusty Volvo and mayhem and disorder in general. St Patricks day is an afternoon tea in comparison.

Thank you John. I know that a lot of people successfully use a mix of oil and diesel, but I do not own a machine running on diesel. However, I do have plenty of white spirit so I will add some of that mixture in the cylinders and let it be there for a couple of weeks. Thanks for the tip. Tonight we celebrate "Midsommar". Very very important holiday here. It has been explained by someone from Germany for for those of you who have not experienced it. I will not work in the garage tonight, I will add the the mix in the cylinders tomorrow.

These carbs was included but I have never seen this type before. Where can I find the numbers? Tried to find the part number but can see it. I guess they are from a later Mk II Saloon?

I did it again! I drove more than 1000 miles around Sweden to help my son move to a new apartment in Gothenburg. And by a coincident I happened to pass a scrapyard and a few other places where I found some Triumph parts! The best thing I found was an engine from a 2000 MkI Saloon. Engine number is almost impossible to read, but I’m quite sure it is an MB-engine, Mk I 2-Litre. Visual inspection gives me the impression that it has been renovated not too long ago. According to seller it was running when removed from the car. The other engine is from a Mk II 2000 Saloon (ME) and I got the gearbox too. This engine is seized, but I think it can be saved with new oversized pistons. My plan is to check compression and bearings for the Mk I engine and if good then I’m tempted to use as is just to get me a runner as fast as possible! I will save the Mk II engine so that I have something to do when I’m retired. I’m happy as a child on Christmas, but wife was not impressed 😂