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  2. International Liaison

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    I got curious how many ”international” members we have here on the forum. In the section ”Browse, Members” we can search the community and if you click ”+More search options” then we can search members ”location”. A quick check shows that we have members from the following countries here on the forum:

    USA: 10 members
    France: 11 members
    Belgium: 7 members
    Germany: 7 members
    Austrailia: 11 members

    The list goes on, and given the fact that most members probably dont bother to fill in the "location" field in their profile there must be many more international members here! Some proper statistics from would be interesting to see. I think there is a huge potential for the club to grow and recruite new members here.

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  4. International Liaison

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    Thanks John & Jess for taking the role as International Liaison Secretaries!
    This forum is such a great benefit for club members not living in the UK. We cannot attend local meetings at the pub, but here we can meet other club members and chat about our cars or get advice. Most car clubs today struggle to survive since members are getting older and it is difficult to recruit new young members. The work done by International Liaison Secretaries is a good opportunity for TSSC to recruit more new members abroad in order to secure long term survival of the club. Thanks for your support for club members living abroad, much appreciated! /Roger

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  5. Oil seal recommendations

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    9 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said:

    Paddocks front £45 rear £67 so a lot cheaper still; I fitted both to this engine (It's an HC-prefix Vitesse engine) many moons ago and they're a good weight reduction.

    I have never ordered parts from Paddocks before but they do have nice price and stock. But they do not mention which model the part will fit! mkI or mk II? Rimmers has that info for each part. Where I live I do not send wrong parts back. It has to be the correct item the first time 

  7. Oil seal recommendations

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    23 hours ago, NonMember said:

    I'm pretty sure the back-plate and clutch housing didn't change throughout 2L Vitesse (and GT6) production. I certainly have a pre-4500 backplate on a post-4500 block on my Vitesse.

    You are quite right! I must have been very tired when I compared the parts...

  8. Oil seal recommendations

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    17 minutes ago, NonMember said:

    I'm pretty sure the back-plate and clutch housing didn't change throughout 2L Vitesse (and GT6) production. I certainly have a pre-4500 backplate on a post-4500 block on my Vitesse.

    Thanks, its still on the HC block, Will remove it from the HC engine tomorrow and try to use it on the MB engine.

  9. Oil seal recommendations

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    On 23/08/2020 at 13:20, Pete Lewis said:

    as a mk1 all the engine parts are the similar  the front engine plate has the 2000 mounts on where as the HC are bolted to bosses on the block

    the rear engine plate has to change as the saloon engine sits at 15deg slant ,  good time to look at flywheels and spigots

    Pete

    Removed the clutch and flywheels from both engines today. Got the Mk II Vitesse flywheel from Canleys a while ago and it seems to fit (indeed a lot heavier flywheel on the Saloon). My only problem now (I hope!!!) is the rear engine plate as you mention Pete. Incredible, I now have FOUR Triumph six pot engines in my possession after driving around Scandinavia TWICE, probably a lot longer distance than RBRR and I STILL dont have all the parts I need to build my engine 😣 But I noticed that Rimmers sell both the front engine plate (used and aluminium) and also the back plate. My concern is will it fit? My gearbox from 1966 has number HC585. Does anyone know if they also changeg gearbox design from HC4500? That back plate is expensive and it has to travel a long distance + customs... I tried to compared the HC backplate with the Mk II Saloon plate I have by putting them on top of each other and there are a lot of holes missing in the Mk II plate. Any advice much appreciated as always.

    Rimmers engine back plate

  10. Oil seal recommendations

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    8 minutes ago, NonMember said:

    The late Mk1 block and the Mk2 block are nearly identical, so the front plate shouldn't be a problem. The gearbox and clutch didn't change (in any manner that would matter) throughout 2L Vitesse production. Your problem is the flywheel. I solved it by buying a Mk2 Vitesse flywheel from TRGB (the most local specialist to me) and using my original clutch from the early engine.

    I actually have a Vitesse Mk II flywheel that I bought from Canley Classics, so then I should have all the parts I need! Thanks again.

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  11. Oil seal recommendations

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    10 minutes ago, NonMember said:

    OK, you're going to have at least one problem, which is that your early HC flywheel will not fit the later MB engine. My Vitesse is slightly later - registered in 1967 - and originally had an HC9xx engine. That had a crack in the block and it's now got HC56xx. I made the mistake of only acquiring the block, expecting everything internal to swap over.

    You'll also find that the early engine front plate doesn't fit the later block (no clearance for the crank journal) or the aluminium insert under the bearing (early engines had one fixing bolt there, late ones had three). The saloon engine mountings can be cut off the MB engine, though, so hopefully you won't need to swap the plate.

    Incidentally, an easy way to identify them is that early blocks have a breather hole next to the fuel pump - probably with a simple plate bolted over it on a 2L Vitesse engine - whereas later blocks don't. The fuel pump is also in a slightly different place, meaning they're not interchangeable either.

    Thanks, I apreciate this info so that i don't have to "learn the hard way"! I also have two Mk II engines. One MG (PI from -74) and one ME-engine also from a 2000 Saloon. Does anyone know if the front plate from a Mk II will fit a Mk I block? If not , I will try to cut of the saloon engine mounts on the MB. I have no idea how to solve the flywheel / clutch issue though with the components I have... I was hoping that I could use the gearbox from the HC engine on my MB engine but don't know which clutch will fit. Thanks again for this very useful information.

    Roger

  12. Oil seal recommendations

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    11 minutes ago, thescrapman said:

    Changes at hc4500 is change from 1600 bottom end to standardised one.

    be careful with early MB blocks, they have a different casting, so no bits to bolt Vitesse engine mount too.

    I have that tee-shirt. 

    😞

    Yes, I beleive my HC engine has smaller diameter crank, and the MB engine is a later version of the Mk I (not bossless) so will be interesting to see what can be used. I also have a MkII MG-engine (PI) which might be useful. Thanks everyone for your advice, it helps a lot.

    Roger

  13. Oil seal recommendations

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    1 hour ago, NonMember said:

    Between HC and MB of the same age, yes. Beware, though, that major changes were made at engine HC4500 and the equivalent MB (don't know that number) which render lots of the early/late parts incompatible.

    My HC-engine has number 643 so definitely an early example from October 1966. Some PO has made the number om my MB engine impossible to read, but I'm quite sure it is one of the later versions. I have both engines on the floor nex to each other so I guess I will just have to compare parts and see what will fit. It will be an interesting jigsaw puzzle!

  14. Oil seal recommendations

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    8 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said:

    you may need to use the HC flywheel  the MB is a ton weight/thicker     also check the flywheel spigot bush as im sure the spigots are larger on big saloon 

    Pete

     

    Thanks Pete, I have just started to move parts from HC to MB engine so I will probably have a lot of questions which parts to use later on.

  17. Oil seal recommendations

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    Hello Roger,

    I assume it is the rear output oil seal that is my main problem, but I will replace all seals that I get access to without taking the gearbox apart completely. Thanks for the tips above, I have to do a closer inspection of that area. I just got it out so haven't taken anything apart yet.

  18. Oil seal recommendations

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    Hi All! Vitesse 2-Litre 1966:

    I’m replacing my cracked HC-engine with an MB-engine from a 2000 Saloon that I found in Sweden. I hope that the gearbox from my (early) HC-engine will fit without problems on the MB-engine, I think it will. I did not have any problems with neither gearbox nor clutch before exept the fact that it was leaking oil really bad. So my plan is to only replace the oil seals and anything else needed in order to prevent leaking. I noticed that Rimmers have the oil seals and they only cost a few ponds. Normally I would not complain that the price is too low, but given the fact that it is such a pain to remove an engine and a gearbox I really want to buy good quality oil seals so that I don’t have to do it again in a year or two. Any recommendations would be appreciated. What supplier would you recommend for oil seals? Has anyone successfully used SKF or other "expensive stuff"? If so what part number? I wish I could do as Paula and take my gearbox to uncle Pete and get some of that magic fairy dust sprinkled over it, but that would be a long trip!

  19. Sump plug thread

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    19 minutes ago, JohnD said:

    Why use a magnet?   Its a FILTER! 

    The magnet can not have any detrimental impact on the filter performance that I can think of (?). No harm done by using one. And it will catch a lot of those ”dust metal particles” (less than 0,01 mm) that otherwise would pass the filter. Ten microns is certainly not much, but metal particles in the oil will never improve the durability of an engine no matter how small they are. Ten microns is indeed a small particle,  but if you have fifty billion particles all less than 0,01 mm in the oil sump then they too becomes a problem.

  24. Engine swap 2500 Vitesse Mk I

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    3 hours ago, Nick Jones said:

    Great video...... so how bad was your hangover?

    No hangover what so ever! I'm too old for dancing on Volvos until the sun goes up. Those days are over 🙂 Just white wine with some salmon, herring and fresh potatos, got up at 7 AM this morning

  25. Engine swap 2500 Vitesse Mk I

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    No, I do NOT eat surströmming! But you can buy it in the supermarket here. They mostly eat it in the northern part of Sweden and you should drink milk and eat it on knäckebröd (hard bread). They claim that the taste is not as bad at all as the smell. But it beats me how they can eat it without feeling the smell... There are plenty of entertaining videos on Youtube with people trying to eat it (mostly Americans, and even Gordon Ramsay had a go at it).

    Now I will go to my garage and mix some oil and white spirit...

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