[What are these panels??]

Great thanks guys got you. Cheers for the quick replies!

[What are these panels??]

Got these panels (brown and black) as part of a spares package that came with my Herald 13 60. Need Triumph/classics nerd to help me identify them as I'm not sure...

Brown ones probably rear arch? Black are they bubble arches??

Any ideas? Thanks all!

 

[Best exhaust for Herald 1360 with Mk4 Spitfire 1300 engine?]

3 hours ago, yorkshire_spam said:

Looks like you made a nice job of fitting the pipes and hangers - it looks nice and professional!

I'm on the wheel barrow style as well, although mine are on the Spitfire

Ah yeah that looks excellent. Maybe I could do the same but with twin cherrybombs 😂

[Best exhaust for Herald 1360 with Mk4 Spitfire 1300 engine?]

3 hours ago, AndyTV8 said:

Nice job... fingers-crossed the sound will be to your liking.....  my first car was a 13/60 with twin SU’s and 4-branch manifold, I used the TriumphTune wheelbarrow handle twin silencer system, I loved it but it did fail the MOT on excessive noise!  A chat with Mr Hurrell and I replaced with the silencers with ‘acoustic tailpipes’ essentially some extra baffling.

have fun

....... Andy 

Ha I didn't realise you could fail an mot on noise! Sounds good fun. Glad I don't need an mot! 

Like the idea of twin pipes, they look smart. 

[Best exhaust for Herald 1360 with Mk4 Spitfire 1300 engine?]

1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said:

I like those flexible joints! Where from?

From Amazon! Delivered from Germany very efficiently even during this lock down. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B084YTDQGM/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_apa_i_oNnGEbAPBQJPQ

£20 so not cheap but excellent quality. 

[Best exhaust for Herald 1360 with Mk4 Spitfire 1300 engine?]

Bodged together the exhaust finally, skinned my knuckles due to not much space to work but went well. My first ever exhaust so I'm pleased. 

Is made up of the 421 James Paddock manifold (2"), to a jetex 2" silencer, then flex join to 2" straight pipe, then another flex join and cherrybomb. 

No idea what it'll sound like, I suspect loud... 

Also used a couple of old polybushes as the rubber mounts, let's see if they're effective... 

Note any missing/loose nuts visible in pics have been fixed, also now added additional nuts to lock any non-locking bolts. 

Sticks out a bit at the back a little so need to be careful when parking, probably 1 flex join too many but the car is low and I needed the extra flex join to move the cherrybomb off the floor. Phase 2 will tidy that up a bit, when I get a chance. 

Cheers all for the recommendations, all plugged together as you described! 

Above is the one with the polybush between the chassis and hanger. 

 

 

[Spitfire MK4 1300 - coolant pipe in head?]

Thanks all, useful to see how others have handled it. Agree it looks like I can probably blank it off and reduce the complexity under there. 

@blubayou that's such a tidy setup, and great it hasn't caused you issues. How many years have you had it like that??

[Spitfire MK4 1300 - coolant pipe in head?]

Hi guys, hope you can help and apologies if this is info available already (did search for it).

I've fitted a mk4 Spitfire 1300 engine to my Herald and had a question on the coolant piping. 

There is a coolant pipe in the top of the head that I didn't have in the previous 1500 engine that was in there. I can't find pics of mk4 spit engines that have it too. 

We've plumbed it into another pipe so it flows somewhere (tried running the car without it plugged and water pumped out).

Any ideas where this should be attached? Have we got it right? Circled below:

Thanks, Jim

[Any idea what spitfire this engine came out of??]

Steve is right, ebay. Not actually noticed the filler bottle thing, not done enough miles. Will keep and eye out.

It seems to do the job fine, and looks shiny enough and the twin fans do excellent cooling, and look nice. 

[Best exhaust for Herald 1360 with Mk4 Spitfire 1300 engine?]

Brief update! 

Wrapped the exhaust in some nasty exhaust heat wrap, looks good though. 

We then fitted the FH engine (out with the dead 1500) and the new exhaust manifold I bought from James Paddock as suggested by @yorkshire_spam. 

Also as suggested here, it didn't fit perfectly, tbh almost every mounting hole needed filing down. Got there in the end though and it looks great. 

Need a silencer as my straight section isn't quite long enough to reach the back. 

Londlg day but went well, needs timing, exhaust and a new brake booster (air keeps getting into brakes, can't fully bleed them). 

Finished article:

[Any idea what spitfire this engine came out of??]

9 hours ago, Steve P said:

I ran an unknown FH 1300 engine in my Herald for 5 years,i had twin SU`s and an overdrive gearbox and 3:63 diff.

Was a great combo,i even completed the CT Round Britain run in it.

Now swapped for a 1500.

Steve

Ah nice to know if worked!! I've also added twin SUs. 

We got the old engine out and the new one in today, needs timing and exhaust sorting but apart from that it was a success! My ebay engine hoist turned out to be excellent (apart from the 2 hours to put it together...). 

[Any idea what spitfire this engine came out of??]

For those interested (not particularly interesting I know...) 

Bottom end has an FH marking so a mk4, the head is 218142 so a big valve head with 9:1 compression. 

Not the small valve everyone talks about but good enough for me to throw into the Herald! Goes in tomorrow then I'll potentially have a driving car... 

 

[Any idea what spitfire this engine came out of??]

On 01/03/2020 at 13:35, thescrapman said:

Dizzy implies Mk3 or Mk4 Spitfire.

breather pipe on rockers says Mk4.

So engine number should be FH

Cheers will confirm!! 

[Crusty yellow stuff out of my engine block, what is it???]

2 hours ago, thescrapman said:

I wonder if that Is some sort of leak sealant that has been added to reduce any issues following the rebuild.

Not necessary on a decent rebuild perhaps.

I do have some question marks over the quality of the rebuild, it never felt right even from the beginning... Ebay, sometimes it's great, sometimes it isn't, part of the fun I guess.

[Crusty yellow stuff out of my engine block, what is it???]

2 hours ago, poppyman said:

Many years ago they used mustard powder to seal rad leaks. wonder if it's that??

Tony. 

HA I did not know that!

[Crusty yellow stuff out of my engine block, what is it???]

Thanks for the replies guys, so it didn't have a blanking plug in there at all, and was run without water leaking from it for the time I had it. So I was stupid not to see that it didn't have the plug, but also not great that the car ran with no plug and it didn't leak cos of all the dirt in there. Annoying the block wasn't cleared properly, but no ones responsibility but my own for not flushing it properly once I got it. Live and learn!! Thanks all

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

4 hours ago, dave.vitesse said:

Looks good.

The Camber Compensator was developed and used by the US Triumph Competitions team headed up by Kas Kastner back in the 1960's. So it has a historic record. 

In the 1960's I can remember seeing it fitted to rally 948 Heralds in the UK.

Dave

Nice, so I can claim racing heritage of some sort!! It'll be scraping along the floor based on the current height of the car...

[Crusty yellow stuff out of my engine block, what is it???]

I'm in the process of putting a different engine into my Herald, I've been removing everything around the block now (carbs, exhaust manifold and the rest of it). Now I see on the block there is a weird yellow leak from a hole within the block. 

I bought the car with this engine in it already. The previous owner of the Herald had bought the engine from a person off Ebay who advertises rebuilt engines for Triumphs, you'll spot them as they have the distinctive blue (or sometimes green) metallic painted block. 

I got it running a handful of times, it had over-heating issues from the beginning and then totally seized after a 1 hour run. Has a spitfire 1500 engine.

I have questions I hope you might be able to answer:

What is that hole?

why is it leaking stuff? Is it missing a plug?

Any idea what the yellow crusty stuff is? Could it be coolant and oil mixed and dried (as hasn't run for a while)?

I suspect the current block is toast what with it being totally seized (can't crank at all despite trying all the methods), so will be installing a 2nd hand engine I've got hold of. Just interested to know what went wrong so I can avoid it again.

Thanks in advance!!

 

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

I'm now working from home as the office has closed, means i have a lot more time to work on the Herald, ticked off plenty of jobs this week. 

One of them was fitting a 1" lowering block! 

I'm pleased with it, I like cars low!! Got it onto a the back of a flat bed (tight squeeze but made it with no scratches) and it goes on and off my drive no problem. Has Gaz dampers on the rear and coilovers on the front.

Engine goes in on Saturday, as long as the roads don't lock down by then...

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

23 minutes ago, 68vitesse said:

Never knew they existed, presumably ends bolt to bottom shock absorber mount and from the text you would need to source front anti roll bar mounts, there are two sizes, to fasten to boot floor.

Wonder if anyone on the forum has ever used them.

Quick search found this.

https://club.triumph.org.uk/menu/6023/item/157985/view

Regards

Paul

Cheers Paul, that link seemed to come to the conclusion they probably aren't the best for usable handling outside of a track, interesting article

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

5 minutes ago, NonMember said:

 No. An anti-roll bar does almost exactly the opposite job to a camber compensator.

Anti-roll bars resist roll by trying to force both sides to the same height, but don't care what that height is. So if the left side tries to compress up into the wheel arch, the anti-roll bar pushes the right side up into its wheel arch to reduce body roll.

Camber compensators resist plunge by providing an extra (quite stiff) spring leaf, but are pivoted in the middle so that they don't resist roll. If the left side tries to compress up into the wheel arch, the camber compensator pushes the right side down, out of its wheel arch, thus discouraging tuck-under. It's very much the same theory as the swing spring - if the lateral forces on the tyre are trying to lift one side of the car, it tries to drop the other side, thus putting more weight on the side that's being lifted, and resisting that lift. It won't discourage body roll - in fact it will encourage it - but if the front of the car has enough roll resistance it will combat the tendency of swing-axle suspension to jack up when cornering.

Thanks @NonMember makes sense.

I'm looking to reduce tuck as the primary objective so it sounds like a camber compensator/stiff leaf spring/swing spring make the most sense

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

17 hours ago, Steve P said:

One on E bay at the moment from Triumph Recycler.

Steve

Thanks @Steve P!! Is it this one? There are just recently a few added.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-REAR-ANTI-ROLL-BAR-HERALD-VITESSE-GT6-SPITFIRE-TRIUMPHTUNE-MODIFICATION/352711033763?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D226055%26meid%3D2fe6c7bb25f84609ad1a59cc68fc6e43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D174222548130%26itm%3D352711033763%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV1Filter%26brand%3DTriumph&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Seems to be an anti roll bar that they're suggesting be attached to the boot floor (rather than the diff as I saw for camber compensators), guess it does a similar job though? 

Anyone have experience of rear anti roll bar vs camber compensator vs courier spring??

Thanks for flagging it @Steve P

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

14 hours ago, PeteH said:

Here is the link:-

http://www.spitlist.info/CamberCompensator.html

Pete

cheers hope they do release it, have signed up to newsletter.

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

18 hours ago, dave.vitesse said:

I used a Camber Compensator a number of years ago and it worked very well. Not to sure where you would get one now.

Dave

Thanks it looks excellent!! Have signed up to the link Pete listed. 

[Camber compensator for Triumph Herald 13 60]

Owen Springs have come back with £264 incl vat and delivery for a herald style spring with the spring rate of a courier spring, with about 2 degrees negative camber. 

Seems reasonable to me considering is a bit custom, similar to a swing spring conversion kit. 

Will probably go for it, once I have it will report back!