13/60 speedo drive oil leak

[Chris A]

Hi everyone - in particular that nice & helpful Colin Lindsay.

There is a leak from the speedo drive at the gearbox, so the mechanic told me this morning when collecting the car after work on the brakes.

I need to find and order the correct seals. I have looked at the drawings on the Canley & Rimmer sites, the latter seems to be the version for my car. Can someone please confirm this.

Back in June last year Colin posted this photo on a similar thread, is this the 13/60 pinion?

If it is Colin's comments about removal are to be taken into account, so I ought to try and source a replacement just in case.

Thanks for your time in looking at this.

[Pete Lewis]

even J paddock only list the one  seal type   James Paddock Limited - Triumph Stag, Spitfire, TR6, TR7, GT6, Vitesse, Herald Parts and Spares Specialists. SPEEDO PINION HOUSING SEAL MANUAL SPIT/GT6/HER/VIT(NKC105A)

but a differing  number to canley's     ????????????    

i just dont remember what varience there is between the plastis and steel carrier 

Pete

[Chris A]

The Paddocks part number is the same as one listed on Rimmer, who don't offer the original part. Rimmer confirmed a short while ago that it is compatible.

For me the good news is my preferred French supplier has that one plus the 'O' rings AND the pinion drive (119100) which from the Rimmer diagram is the correct one. Pinion a bit dear at 51.00€ to buy 'just in case'.

[Colin Lindsay]

I'm almost embarrassed to raise my head in this thread, now... but my 2p worth is as good as anyone's 2p worth even if £1 worth is really needed...

There are three seals, the two larger O-rings round the body and a smaller seal round the pinion. NKC101 is £1.90 from Moss.The smaller seal is NKC1554 and seals the pinion shaft into the body.

For spares and pinions (with different drive teeth for alternate components such as those funny kilometre things) try: https://www.overdrive-repairs.co.uk

info@overdrive-repairs.co.uk

Removing the speedo body can be tricky, you can end up pulling the threaded section clean off, so take care. Removing the screw that holds it to the gearbox then inserting a circular rod of the same dimension into the hole, and levering gently with that, helps.

[Chris A]

18 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said:

I'm almost embarrassed to raise my head in this thread, now... but my 2p worth is as good as anyone's 2p worth even if £1 worth is really needed...

2 p or not 2 p . . . Your 2p is worth £1 of a lot of other peoples comments ( do I get my prize now?)

18 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said:

For spares and pinions (with different drive teeth for alternate components such as those funny kilometre things)

Isn't the different gearing for Kms or Miles in the actual speedo not the gear box pinion. The metric speedo I have just bought has the 50mph/80kph in the same position as the imperial one fitted, hence gearing to that point the same. diff is same ratio so should be just the 'counters' and their cogs that differ. I hope so or I've done a huge blond moment 😨

My French supplier quotes the same part number for the pinion as Rimmer and doesn't specify metric or imperial readings.

The comment about taking care is noted and raised my blood pressure a couple of points. 

Maybe I'll leave the work until the end of this season - don't want the car off the road more than necessary during the long, hot summer we are bound to have 

[Pete Lewis]

yes odometer pawl drive and the worm that runs it is different between KM and MPH   the drive from the box is easy to check if the TPM on both is the same then the changes are internal in the speedo 

parts list shows only one drive pinion but obviously different speedos for Km MPH   and just differing speedos for those cars with a range of diff ratios 

on trucks we changed the drive to suit the driveline and a common speedo    Triumph kept  the same drive and changed the speedo TPM to suit driveline ratios 

Pete

[Chris A]

1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said:

yes odometer pawl drive and the worm that runs it is different between KM and MPH   the drive from the box is easy to check if the TPM on both is the same then the changes are internal in the speedo 

parts list shows only one drive pinion but obviously different speedos for Km MPH   and just differing speedos for those cars with a range of diff ratios 

TPM on the imperial and TPK on the metric, logically.

Just been out and checked the 2 dials. The imperial one in the car is a '1216'. The metric is marked '760'.

My calculation confirms 760/Km = 1216/Mile. Phew!

 

[Pete Lewis]

arso  both are the same only different   there is a proverb about that some where 

but the only one i remember is "girl with skirt up run faster than man with trousers down"

does that help at all ??  well we now confirm its not a matter of  opinion !!!..............  Pinion    get it ?

Pete

[Chris A]

1 minute ago, Pete Lewis said:

"girl with skirt up run faster than man with trousers down"

does that help at all ??

Not this afternoon, it's too cold