martyn wright Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) Hi! I purchased New Hood from TSSC! Are the Instructions supposed to be in the box? Or Don't they come with instructions? ( The Popers where missing?) Cheers Martyn Edited June 2, 2023 by martyn wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) Hi again Martyn Here's a link to some useful tips from the Club Triumph Website https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj7is3VzaT_AhWMgVwKHfAPDWoQrAIoAHoECBwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.clubtriumph.co.uk%2Fforums%2Ftopic%2F1289-hood-fitting%2F&usg=AOvVaw0poTMQM-X-K67xrwph0JUd I've fitted a couple with varying degree's of success, its advisable to unfold the hood and lay it out in a warm room or in the sun first for a day or so. When fitting it's easier/better to do the work on a hot day as the Vinyl will be more supple and easier to stretch to remove creases Start by making sure your hood frame is in good condition and fits well with regards to the side windows (Even gaps all the way around of about 1" if remember correctly before the seals and retainers are fitted) I would advise getting new Aluminium Seal retainers (3 Pieces per side) and new 'J' Shaped rubber seals, a new seal for the front is advisable too. Start at the rear making sure the hood is central before making any holes and that it looks like it will fit the sides above the door windows correctly (I've seen hoods both too narrow and too wide in this area) if that's the case you have no chance of getting it to fit correctly Another pair of hands to Hold, stretch the fabric and assist is advisable, a good contact adhesive is a must too together with a rivet gun and 1/8" rivets will be needed for some of the poppers together with the correct size self tapers for some of the finishers and seal retaining channels. I also used some 3.5mm Countersunk type Switch/Socket screws/nuts/washers for some of the hood poppers There was an article in one of the TSSC Courier magazines a few years ago and Practical Classic magazine also did a feature on fitting one to a Herald they restored but this was 30+ years ago! You need to try and get the tension correct to remove as many creases as possible, getting the rear quarter light windows to fit crease free is very difficult to do. Here's a couple of photo's of what my Mohair hood looked like when fitted (Done by The Don Trimming Co. though in Brum) so I can't take any credit Good luck Gary PS - I've sent you a PM regarding the Hood Finisher you wanted Edited June 2, 2023 by Gary Flinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Interesting that you got no poppers. I did, but was surprised at that being the case and had already bought some! (Also got my hood from Don via the club) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 I am in the process of fitting a new hood to my herald. The first job is sorting out the frame to try to get a better fit around the windows. I never realised how many moveable joints there are on the hood frame, the design is quite complex. Most on my car are seized and I think I will end up taking all the joints apart to free them before I can get the frame correct. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Hi! Anyone have a photo of the Header rail Plastic seal and how it fits onto the hood?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Yep! I also had to take the Hood Frame apart! Rub down and Paint it! Clean and white grease the movable parts and bend the damaged/bent parts back in line. Drill out the damaged screws in the Header Rail and fit new. Lol! This Vitesse hasn't been on the road since 1985! Put Windscreen in this morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Hi All! Back to the fitting Instructions! Has anyone out there "Had Instructions" when they purchased a New Hood?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 I’ll look thro my old doc’s I know I have an article somewhere, but have you looked thro the clubs tech archives from old courier mags a wealth of knowledge there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 just opened my Don hood that I brought from TSSC last year and it has a very small bit of paper with instructions on. Will post a copy later also had a small bag with the poppers in it. As its so small it would be easy to throw it away with the box. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 On 03/06/2023 at 09:45, martyn wright said: Hi! Anyone have a photo of the Header rail Plastic seal and how it fits onto the hood?? will take a photo later. It fits over the front edge of the header rail over the hood material and is held in place under the metal rail that holds the header seal. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hi! Mike! Is there supposed to be a Rail also inside that holds the Rubber Header Seal? If so I do not have that either? Since my last message I now have the Plastic Header finisher! Cheers Martyn 20230509_161827 (1) Hood Header Rail with Chanel (1).mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hi All! The Retainer Screws for the Alloy Weather and Rubber strip are showing as PTO 453 but are discontinued? But there is no info on what Size etc they are? Can anyone help please? Cheers Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, mpbarrett said: just opened my Don hood that I brought from TSSC last year and it has a very small bit of paper with instructions on. Will post a copy later also had a small bag with the poppers in it. As its so small it would be easy to throw it away with the box. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hi! Don Hoods just emailed me a copy of the Instructions? Not a lot of use!! I'm only able to do small jobs on the car as I have been ill! My concentration is minimum at present. so looking back through the "Courier" Mags is not an option. Its taken me 3 days to fit up the Hood Frame LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, martyn wright said: Hi All! The Retainer Screws for the Alloy Weather and Rubber strip are showing as PTO 453 but are discontinued? But there is no info on what Size etc they are? Can anyone help please? Cheers Martyn I am using SS countersank head screws. The holes in the header never seem to line up with the seal retaining piece and if they do the holes are often enlarged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, martyn wright said: Hi All! The Retainer Screws for the Alloy Weather and Rubber strip are showing as PTO 453 but are discontinued? But there is no info on what Size etc they are? Can anyone help please? Cheers Martyn Flat head screws with flat washer on the inside. Could use a 4mm pan head screw, washer and nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 HI! Excellent all I now need is the Header Rail to hold in the Rubber! Its the same as the retailers for the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Martyn The Header rail seal retainer is listed on the Rimmer's Site, Part Number 704418 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjzkeHD6LD_AhUoQUEAHffiBjAQFnoECBAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Frimmerbros.com%2FItem--i-704418&usg=AOvVaw00JjEuUdGJ5y5bpVVznxWV Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 worth having a look at the diagram on Canely site Convertible Hood : Canley Classics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hi! I have contacted Canley, Rimmer and Paddocks and they no longer have any 704418! would a alloy one suffice? B&Q or somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) could try Spitfire graveyard for a secondhand one? I have a spare one but it is not in great condition, where are you based? mike Edited June 7, 2023 by mpbarrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hi Mike, I'm in Blackwood, Gwent NP123PG ! If its usable then I am quite happy to pay you for it aswell as Postage obviously? Cheers martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hi Mike! Just sent off to Spit Graveyard just incase! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Martyn ANG Parts list one on E-Bay for the Spitfire as link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374316907421?hash=item572706bb9d:g:HKQAAOSwhGtjU-JX It may be worth an e-mail to see if they do one for the Herald/Vitesse or you may be able to make the Spitfire one fit, if your struggling to find the specific one for the Herald/Vitesse range? Gary Edited June 7, 2023 by Gary Flinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 I have this one a few extra holes and some damage at the ends, need some TLC but useable but no serious rust. Let me know if you want it and I can post it to you. You can have it for the cost of the postage. cheers mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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