Jeffds1360 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I'm rotating the axle with the new uj in The noise is 10% what I get on the road its bloody noisy. Video tomorrow of road noise when I get it back together. Hope I can load video! 20200808_134331.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 just to check with the shaft hanging it often makes contact with the chassis ,, not when on the road though and turning just one wheel you get the noise from the diff gears as the sun and planets rotate , they were never made to be quiet can you jack both uprights and turn the prop , does the same noise develop ??? one side both sides or what Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Thanks Pete. I've just cut the grass and am knackered:) I'll try that tomorrow. When I rotate near side there is no noise...????. If I put it in gear then they, of course, rotate opposite ways, and the noise is there again.... Edited... Alright...your right jacking upright up reduces that noise. Ijut I am. Ok. Tomorrow a road test at 5mph with my 40yr old daughter chasing me with a microphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 will she fit underneath ????????????? herts and beds run out sunday so out most of the day pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: just to check with the shaft hanging it often makes contact with the chassis You just beat me to it!! Jeff - tape your phone to a long stick like a brush shaft then with it recording have a passenger hold it out of the window and down beside the rear wheel. If the phone survives, let us hear what it records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 we will just get the noise of it being run over pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 or my daughter falling out! yea, I'll just try audio. I'm sure she will know how to do that! Noise is definitely not clicking like I've seen/heard on those utube things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 well bearings rumble , and can change with cornering and wheels end rather than diff end ive never found a output shaft bearing fail, but wheel bearings is a good possiblity Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Well, just been under and jacked both links up so the axles clear the chassis and....the n/s inner axle flange into the diff has play and 'knocks. Just a little, but twisting it by hand back and forth I can feel play and hear the knock. If you want a video I need 3 hands!. the o/s is solid and quiet. Rotating the prop you can see that fractional delay on the n/s rotating. I'm going for a walk with Mrs and a bit think and then put it on road and record the doomp doomp doomp noises. Ohhhh rollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 the output shafts have no set float or play other than the tolerances of the ball races i would pull the n/s shaft out, means coupling off again , and the fixing hex screws are aligned through the coupling holes the shaft should just pull out by hand or a little assistance a spin by hand soon tells if the race has given up.....will be unusual , they are pretty reliable , its unsuual for a 13/60 diff to have any shreaded crownwheel teeth or main bearings failed unless its had lot of low oil running this normally fails the pinion brgs and you get whine not knocking rebuilding output shafts is DIY but a diff thats a whole more difficult and accurate ball game , let us know what the sort shaft bearing is like Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Thanks Pete.If I do go for it I'll do the uj on that side (it was o/s I did) as well but there is no feeling of horizontal or vertical movement, it is all rotational??? and just that one side. More exploration soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Right, a drive by. Excuse exhaust crackle. I'll put 2 more up, from inside. Only 4/5 mph straight and left right bends. No change under throttle, just drowned by exhaust note. 20200809_152632.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Lewis Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 it has all the hallmarks of a failed UJ or loose wheel /hub etc Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Pete, I'll check them again but the only movement I can get anywhere is the n/s inner axle flange to diff. Been fighting door catch the last 2hrs. Having a break now. Hope you had a good run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 if the short shaft bearing has failed it would give the same frequency noise to eliminate doubts i would pop it out and give it a spin ,it will either be vaRoom or clickety clac ........slack ??? if you dont eliminate a few ideas its going to haunt you for ever youve had the shaft off so the hub bearing is OK ... or is it ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 I have had the o/s shaft off and uj done. Hub seemed to be fine. Never checked the o/s 'short shaft' guess that is what the manual calls the inner axle shaft? I'll bite the bullet and do the n/s uj and check both hub and short shaft. How the hell do you adjust the door catch when the inside handle will not pull the catch far enough??? ? replace all those pivots?? or just grease it all and use your shoulder to get out the car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 i guess check both short shafts , the door release handle is on slotted holes move it forwards a bit pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Ahhh. !! You are a mine of useful information Pete, all appreciated. I'll have a look at the picture book and get that sorted. Still haven't got the V5c for it yet. Are DVLA on a go slow or all off with covid? over 7 weeks now. why is pete crossed out??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 its crossed out as i must have hit the S ssssss tab you asked how the run went pity only 5 cars one went sick so just my 2000, a Moss, two Vitesse and an modern great meal at the garden centre cleared the soot on the A505 and cruised past everything but on a B road near home giant wheeled tractor and trailer coming towards us and at point blank indicates right and turns directly across me , the mintex hauled her to a stop Phew but the BMw following had to evade to the wrong side of the road and stopped alongside what a near miss the tractor disappeared in the field ......there was some bad language and a whiff in the air , we were very lucky . good end to a nice 100 mile day out and HYA ran like a dream , Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 yes it needs the door card removing to adjust the handle pivot position Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Well I've got the n/s hub off and the caps moving. Giving it a rest 'till tomorrow as knackered. Uj feels pretty solid though. I will replace it however. When working it on the bench, balanced on the link, the drive shaft rotated freely....but occasionally seemed to jam?? A bit back rotation freed it. I let the shoes of a bit but am not sure yet if it was them or a trunnion bearing problem. There is no play in the trunnion I think?? How can I check? To get to the Allen keys to remove the inner flange, I guess there is a "sweet spot" to remove the bolts? Not tried yet. And.... this door handle....oh , enough Ts ready ATB all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 two of the 4 holes will align with the hex heads Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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