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Refurbing Vitesse , Herald doors


Paul H

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Hi , thought the following might be of interest to others who are refurbing their Vitesse , Herald doors .

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The pic above shows the quarter light stripped down , the mid item is the old window runner channel removed , the inner padding has rotted away so scrap. The lower item is the Canleys replacement part no 559474 . This is a flexible channel which will be glued into the quarter light channel

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The above pic is the rear window channel with the replacement Canleys rear  window channel part no T2. ( lower item ) 

The 3 brackets need removing and riveted to the new channel

To replace both doors with new front and rear channels  cost £20.33 deld from Canleys , not a bad price to cure rattly windows 

Hope this helps 

Paul 

 

 

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take photos and sketches of the brackets , as they all go ape when you rivet them and nothing resembles what you take off 

the little sods move and there is a limit how many times you can rivet them before you run out of channel 

this simple job drove me to drink then the upside down wrong way round all starts to look fine    till you put them in the door 

pete

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37 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said:

take photos and sketches of the brackets , as they all go ape when you rivet them and nothing resembles what you take off 

the little sods move and there is a limit how many times you can rivet them before you run out of channel 

this simple job drove me to drink then the upside down wrong way round all starts to look fine    till you put them in the door 

pete

Thanks Pete . I’ll take the other side off first before I start to play 

Paul 

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Having now got the passenger side off. The metal sections have been scrubbed and treated with Rust killer. I find the rear inner, have had the Brackets "tack" welded on, not riveted?. Fortunately they are recoverable, the other "strange" thing is that the Inner "felt" strips where wrapped all round the channel(s) with a sort of adhesive woven tape?. Is that Original, or possibly the result of some later refurbishment?. I am assuming the Canley type Channel liner will still fit?. Width of the steel channel appears to be +/- 1/2".

Pete

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2 hours ago, PeteH said:

Having now got the passenger side off. The metal sections have been scrubbed and treated with Rust killer. I find the rear inner, have had the Brackets "tack" welded on, not riveted?. Fortunately they are recoverable, the other "strange" thing is that the Inner "felt" strips where wrapped all round the channel(s) with a sort of adhesive woven tape?. Is that Original, or possibly the result of some later refurbishment?. I am assuming the Canley type Channel liner will still fit?. Width of the steel channel appears to be +/- 1/2".

Pete

Hi Pete . The outer width of the rear channel is 0.48ins and the pic shows the existing channel alongside the Canleys version 

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Paul 

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not sure will the replacement fit  inside the orig  metal  channel  ??

something often lost is there is a   wire coat hanger thing that links the base of the two guides , think to stop them spreading with

door slam and glass down ,  prevents the channel rolling and the glass peels out 

https://www.canleyclassics.com/?catalogue=triumph-vitesse&diagram=triumph-vitesse-vitesse-mkii-door-assembly

 

item  36  

 

 

Pete

 

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1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said:

not sure will the replacement fit  inside the orig  metal  channel  ??

something often lost is there is a   wire coat hanger thing that links the base of the two guides , think to stop them spreading with

door slam and glass down ,  prevents the channel rolling and the glass peels out 

https://www.canleyclassics.com/?catalogue=triumph-vitesse&diagram=triumph-vitesse-vitesse-mkii-door-assembly

 

item  36  

 

 

Pete

 

Hi Pete the replacement channel from Canley’s is fabric covered metal so needs the 3 brackets removed and riveted to the Canleys replacement 

Paul 

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39 minutes ago, PeteH said:

Item 36? NLA. What dia of material is it fabricated from? No sign of them On either of my doors?.

Pete

Hi Pete . Assuming we’re not snowed in overnight , I’ll get some details for you tomorrow 

Paul

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19 hours ago, PeteH said:

Item 36? NLA. What dia of material is it fabricated from? No sign of them On either of my doors?.

Pete

Quite thick heavy wire; loops round the channel at the B-post end and screws to a bracket close to the front, low down on the inner frame, which allows it to be tensioned. As Pete says it keeps the window channels tight so that the glass doesn't rattle. You can see it halfway along the door, where it's fixed to the door frame with a clip.

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Cheers for that.  Looks to be about 1/8" (2-3mm) dia, with a loop one end Bent at the other end?. I will have to have a look in the mulltitude of collected bits that came with the "project". I think I have some Steel of that ilk (somewhere!!!!)

 

Pete

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On 07/02/2021 at 12:09, Paul H said:

Here’s a pic of the wire , I can get exact measurements if you want 

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Here’s the bracket you will need as well 

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Paul

Length of wire is 68cms . Wire is 3.3mm diameter 

close up of bracket , note 1 bend is not 90 degrees 

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width of bracket is 29mm

length 51mm (left) 54 (right )

bracket gauge 6.75mm

Paul

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