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Hello all you good people I have a question regards the steering on my herald. With the car on the ground I can move my steering wheel approx one inch before any movement at the wheels is this normal, will it fail the MOT and if so is an adjustment I can do or is it a new rack required. What is the best remedy.

 

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Andrew

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Ideally grab an assistant to twiddle the wheel, and then you can have a look at the steering column in the engine bay. 

Does the column where it comes out the bulkhead move OK?

Now look at the flexi coupling, between the shaft and the rack. Fiddly little thing, often a problem. Does teh movement go from the column to the rack OK?

Does the rack move in the mounts?

 

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Hello guys

I have done the required check with an assistant to move the wheel from side to side, I I can confirm the play is in the UJ between the column and the rack. The strange thing is it looks a shiny new unit, two questions 1) can I tighten the bolts that hold it together have you ever hear of them working loose and 2) is it an easy job to replace if so what is the best method in your opinion or is a rack out the car job

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Andrew

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undo the telescopic clamp just below the column tube inside the car and you can pull the column upwards ( think thats right) 

 

read up the manual on retighetning this safety device , its simple but needs some thought , this allows collumn to collapse in shunts and allows height adjustments to raise the handwheel  clear of the knee's.

 

dont take the rack off,  the all metal fiesta type  uj are a big improvement  

 

you can rebush the old style , and if bolts are loose yes retighten them, some have locking wire used, and there must be a earth link across the two halves,

not needed on the modern metal uj version.

 

pete

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Hello all

This afternoon I have cured the problem. All four Bolts on the coupling between the steering shaft and the rack were loose, it was a fidley job as the bolts are Allen keys not bolt heads, what I do not understand is why all four bolts were loose I can understand one or even two but four, it makes me wonder if they were ever tightened when it was fitted. Thank you all for your guidence and pointing me in the right direction. No dought I will be asking for your help in the near future. But I love this forum for all the help and support

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Andrew

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The reason is the rubber bushes in the uj have perished. They are known to heave a VERY short lifespan (the repro ones) and if you have made it solid that may cause an issue too, it needs to be flexible.

The best alternative is to fit a solid UJ coupling, about £20 (group 4 escort UJ will do the trick, I have used them for years) or from one of the usual suppliers.

 

Do not waste any money on a new standard part, it WILL fail.

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I did that on one car (my old vitesse) HOWEVER most of the couplings have the through bolts crimped so you need to be clever to get them out, or use a really old original coupling that is wired to stop the bolts undoing. You cannot just relace teh bolts, they are shouldered so goodness knows if you can get new ones.

Also the cost of the poly bushes is about the same as a new solid UJ. Makes it a no brainer to me. I have run solid UJ's in all my cars since the vitesse

 

On another note, I had heard somebody used small viton O rings to replace worn bushes in a coupling to good effect. And lasted well. Also pretty cheap......

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