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Pete Lewis

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  1. right  Today head off fitted the canley supplied gasket , retorqued , tappet reset, timed, and she runs fine

    compare old gasket and the canley gasket with the Payen from Rimmers and the problem is evident 

    the payen gasket Fire rings are half the width required to seal against the clamping load of the head 

    so this confirms the  Triumph  Payen Gasket  is not fit for purpose , any purpose .

    the pic shows the wildly differing half the width rings 

    there's a lesson for us all here 

    Pete 

     

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  2. sometimes the simplest is the best 

    a small bulb on the trigger line will wink just the same as with points 

    might be worth checking you get 4 pulses per rev.of the rotor 

    I am currently playing with one only doing 3 out of the 6 

    so thats gone back to points for now. 

    sorry but i find they look the part but just seem unreliable 

    and i find aldon and lumenition just battle on for ever 

    pete

     

  3.  yes Nigel   theres lots of negative comments on the 'net'   about payen   so  replacement is coming from Canley's 

    head comes off  this week end  

    i hear the ideas its maybe something else but ....what 

    there is little to go wrong with what was a running engine having a gasket swap and a light valve/chamber clean up 

    its got me stumped and thats unusual the only common thing is the  gasket 

    if i fitted the head with chocolate spread i would expect better results 

    and ive said  the pistons are going up,down ok , you can feel a light puff from the plug hole but not enough to make it work 

    Pete

     

     

  4. you could araldite the bolt heads just holds enough to allow the nuts tight without the heads spinning 

    you could drill the bolt head and insert a split pin just need to stop the head rotating 

    many ways  are available with a bit of thinking 

    you can leave the metalastic mount and remove the chassis  base plate as an assy. or hope you can lift the od over the mount 

    leaving the sodding nuts alone 

    Pete

     

  5. Hi John ,  apart from all pistons go up and down

    antics of low cranking needed replacement starter

    fuel wont prime

    sparks leaping out the coil head

    accuspark  only tiggering 3 of the 6 

    screw missing from rocker /pedestal location 

    none of which has anything to do with zero compression

    all the rockers rock  will check valve timing 

    but she ran on 5/6 before we took the head off and there was little work required to clean that up 

    it makes no sense , the gasket is the common denominator ...or its Me

    and there are online reports of payen giving troubles from spitfire to stag  across the whole car range

    since production left the UK 

    watch this space 

    Pete

  6. i would not expect a loose fitting trigger to mess up the running more like the module is playing up 

    whilst i mainly see cars with a problem  im afraid i see accuS as often the culprit with erratic running .

    im sure there are many running fine  

    a bit of tape to make a better fit is not an unusual fix even for the rotor arm 

    Pete

     

     

  7. 1 hour ago, JohnD said:

    To a true engineer's straight edge?

    yes john   i do have a goodly selection of engineering tools and measuring devices 

    lts not like Ive never done this before is it 

    i understand the bath water syndrome but the car has run ok for a good few years till No5 gave out

    its pretty grubby and unmolested original years of un touched grime   the head nuts were def down to deformed washers   we have all seen that before .

    def feeling a bit stumped on this  and that is somewhat unusual 

    Pete

     

     

  8. old gasket had 120 with no5 an=t 0 

    new gasket two at 50  rest all 0

    valve seats all cleaned and lightly refaced , all sound and not in a poor sate  easy to tidy and re seat

    having done more heads than i care to remember  this makes no sense 

    as belgium payen seem to have a poor reputation its expected that its the gasket is the common factor in this conundrum

    its a mk2 2,5 engine recessed bores gasket with a tab at the back 

    never in my experience has a simple gasket swap ended up as a disaster

    the old gasket has signs of blow by , most nuts quite loose ,  the head will have to come off and see what the heck is going on here   

    there is no need to reface the head  its as flat as a pancake 

    stud threads al die nut cleaned ,  washers and nuts all good.

    and yes we have tapper clearances at 0.010"

    Pete

     

     

     

     

  9. AidanT started a question on this way back in 2020  but following a head rebuild on a local 2500s 

    which suffered compression loss on No  5  we refaced and cleaned the head die nutted the studs to clean the threads 

    all looks like new and yes its a recessed bore and payen with a tab but now have between 0 and 50psi  across the engine 

    the common denominator is the blasted gasket  TLD has a post about not fit for purpose since production transferred from UK to Belgium 

    I dont normally need help but any others had problems with Payen ????

    this should be a simple  whip it off   clean and refit    ,well its all buttoned up  but now hopeless .not  able to spurn a pop or bang 

     

    Pete

  10. 2 hours ago, Iain T said:

    There's a steering column 'safety' joint by the pedals check that that is correctly installed and tightened. 

    Iain 

    Yes  just below the outer tube is a flat clamp plate that allows the column to collapse under impact 

    this has a grub screw in the centre to grip but allow slide and there is a simple setting  best read the manual 

    there could be some shift if its a bit slack .

    Pete

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