haggis Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 Hello, it’s been a long time, Just a quick one, do you use a sealant with the 1600 tin head gaskets? cheers hag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 the wsm says seal but does not say what to use wellseal was the olde world product of the day a shellac type sealant you dont want anything slippery heads and gaskets need to grip pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted March 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 Hi Pete, do you just smear well seal all over or just around bores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 think the wsm quotes coat the gasket !!!!!!!!! just spent ages browsing and you know I cant find the reference so now the brain fog starts its written down somewhere it only applied to the 1600 steel shim gasket but the OE wsm dosnt mention it ( im sure it did where's it gone ) Im sure im not dreaming here but cant get at the facts to dispell lunacy creeping in Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted March 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 I know the feeling Pete, the old grey matter doesn’t function as it used to probably needs a software update. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 the daft thing is , this is in a manual somewhere but where ???? i have re read all my OE WSM and theres no mention............. this is nuts Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted March 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 I found a wsm that said coat the bottom of the gasket to block, but doesn’t say with what. ? Assuming Wellseal then unless anyone else knows better. thanks hag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 Hag, where did you find it i have read this and promoted the idea every time it comes up but failed to find the reading bit in my small library Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foshi Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 if it helps coated both sides have done 2 1600 heads can get a bit messi . i used a small synthetic paint brush and wellseal , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 and do check the washers for deformation where the nut sits a good cause for lose of torque Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted March 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 Thanks guys, found the info in this online wsm, I’m aware of the washer deformation, and the lower torque on the smaller head bolts. hag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 Hag , i have that but forthe life could not find the statement i know its in there as i have mentioned it lots of times but i failed to read it this year Grr r and i have just been to specsavers for some new goggles Pah! pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 Had this problem with my 1966 1600/6! Never used any Sealant at all! Checked with Club and Canley Classics as from new I was told that no Gasket seal was used!! Just make sure the Head Gasket (208652) is up the correct way as I put it on upside down and I had no compression on No1 Cylinder! Took it back off, Torqued it down and she start for the first time since 1995! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 and the tin gasket doesnt have top marked on it just had a look at an old stock (i dont need ) and its down to do you want the humps up or down guess work again nothing in the manuals about which way up . i cant see it really matters much on the tin gasket Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn wright Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 I like the TSSC Badge Pete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Martyn if you read the revised forum posts you will see where the medal evolved from ....its not me Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted March 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Thanks guys, Pete I went through the wsm again but couldn’t find it this time either 🤣, but what I did find is Heldite, is that better than well seal if I go down the sealant route? thanks hag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 sounds a plan so where is the disapppearing text disappearing to ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted March 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Found it, page 1.136 or something like that. 😮💨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 well done Hag, we knew it had to be somewhere hidden in the clues triumph like to make confusing Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted April 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 Well I changed the headgasket last weekend, Used heldite on both sides and after 3 runs, I no longer have oil everywhere, and only a little blue smoke on start up warm. Result. !!! Thanks for all your help. Hag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 great thats another 1600 running on all six Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 Just wanted to resurrect this as I have the same questions for my 2L mk2 6 1- is this a tin gasket? And 2- is it the right way round?? Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 It looks like a modern multi layer steel gasket with a rubber coating both side for adhesion to the surfaces and with this construction I cant see any difference in which way up its used. However are the bores alright? On magnification number 1 looks a bit pitted or is that just the photo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) agree the 1600 steel is a single shim ,no layers or composite so what you have is ok for your 2 ltr in general no sealer , gaskets need to Grip so nothing slippery , just a smear around the rocker oil feed hole Pete Edited July 22, 2023 by Pete Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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