Gt6 Sump removal whilst engine is still in the car

[Kevin.payne.15]

Guys

 

Whilst the Haynes only has a section on the sump removal whilst the engine is out of the car, is it possible to remove the sump with the engine still in place?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Kevin

[Pete Lewis]

yes it can be a fiddle 

probably need to drop the rack /push it forwards , 

lift the engine a fair bit,  watch out for hose stretching

the sump will come off but has to clear the oil pump tubes 

this can be a fiddle and cursing few minutes and then it pops off just when youve given up

the pan has to clear below the rear engine plate to enable rearwards extraction

 

if there is a splash gauze in the pan its hard, on one i undid the Oil pump screws through the gap , dropped it in the sump and thats easy

 

had to remove the splash gauze to get it back together ,, not all have this inside.  depends on age. then theres plain suction tubes and ones with filter attached  just to hinder the frustarations

but yes its certainly  do able

 

Pete

[dougbgt6]

I've done it twice. Didn't need to move the rack. Undo the driver's side engine mount, jack up the engine, drivers side and you should be able to wiggle it out.  

 

More importantly, lift the bonnet!  There's not much clearance between the rocker cover and the power bulge and you won't notice you're pushing into it.    

[Pete Lewis]

 Doug,  i now have this awful vision of your feet sticking out from under the car 

 

sorry thats an assumption

 

Pete

[dougbgt6]

You're just envious of my power bulge!

[Pete Lewis]

dont tell the council or your rates go up 

 

this really helps kevin,  he will begin to think we're all nuts on here

 

 

but you need 'sense of silly' to work on triumphs    out in the garage............they listen to you....... you know 

Pete

[Kevin.payne.15]

Guys

 

I've had a peep under the sump and what do you suggest to jack up on. Not much other that the fan and timing ring?

 

Kevin

[Pete Lewis]

I made a wooden stand to locate on the pulley, with a leg to fit inbetween the timing cover so it cant jump out raise with a trolley jack

 

The engine mounts sit as a vee you may need to unbolt from the block bracket to allow lift

As the ears on the mounts get stuck behind the flanges on the turrets

[Kevin.payne.15]

Ok thanks I'll have a go

 

Kevin

[daverclasper]

Trying not be smutty here.

 

Is it ok to jack under the sump with flat, sturdy wood to spread the load.

 

Cheers, Dave

[Pete Lewis]

Yes Dave thats fine but tends to get in the way if you want the sump off

you need some other idea to support the lump,

 

pete

[Kevin.payne.15]

Managed it but it's a struggle and took far longer than hoped. Given that I've the head off next time I'll lift the engine out as I think it would be quicker

 

Kevin

[Pete Lewis]

Well done , can we ask why you need it off??

 

pete

[dougbgt6]

Surprised to hear that Kevin but if you have the engine lifting kit I suppose it would be quicker. In my case I don't intend to do much more crawling  under the car so I guess I'm with you!

[Kevin.payne.15]

Pete. Sorry for the delay. Been traveling on business and life getting in the way. It's all part of the head skim saga that has been in several links on the site in recent months......yes it has been going on that long

 

We assembled the head after a skim but didn't get shorter push rods and had a valve touch a piston. Thankfully I didn't try and turn over on the starter so didn't think I had damaged anything but when shorter rods fitted and engine started I had low compression on one cylinder and whilst I checked the head for leaks I couldn't really find any so decided to take a piston out to see if I had lost a ring or anything ......nope

 

So all back together after having valves recut again ( see the link on valves and groves by me ) and now got the front carb leaking petrol from its bum. Another set of needle valves ordered from burlen ( so much cheaper that rimmer ) and also a fuel pressure regulator to help

 

Then I might get the car on the road this year

 

Kevin

[Pete Lewis]

I can almost hear it running

Was there not enough tappet screw length to accomodate a skim ?? With a 0.010" tappet gap

its been a bit of a slog, let us know it all works out

 

pete

[Kevin.payne.15]

No. Tappet gap was at very best marginal on the first few then failed on the next couple. Gap yes but not 0.01 and my fear was that with the further head bolt down after 500 miles then I would have run out of range completely

 

Chris wittor was the only person to have some 8.00 push rods. What o don't understand is how the standard ones work on conventional engines because all I've effectively done is convert a 2000 to a GT6.

 

Kevin