aggie Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 I am trying to refit the boot handle to a new boot lid on my Mk 1 Spitfire. However the square rod attached to the handle which should turn the latch does not reach the latch. I would say that is at least 1/2" short of where it should be which to my way of thinking should level with or just proud of the inside of the latchplate. Any ideas please? Also should there be a circlip to hold the handle assembly to the escutcheon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 you seem to have the wrong handle same handle is used on herald Vit 607978 yes there is normally a simple circlip to hold the escutcheon to the end of the handle , otherwise the handle will 'pull out' unless theres a stop bolt in the end of the square https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005894 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie Posted August 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Thanks for that but it's the original handle and escutcheon. There is no circlip shown on the Rimmerbros diagram which is why I was asking. The rod has a threaded end to take a locknut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 The handle simply passes through the escutcheon (no clip) then through the boot lid then through the catch, the thread should protrude enough for a nyloc nut. That is how it is on my mk2 there is of course a small gasket between escutcheon and boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 i said that as repairing one last month it had a sprag type washer to hold it all in place orig or from where ...no idea if its original fit why is it too short now? , is the latch fitted position got some problem .. or the handle is not far enough through the escutcheon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Post some photos and we may be able to spot the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 is it locked? a 'pin' slides out and engages with a slot in the escutcheon to lock this could be preventing the handle from fitting into the escutcheon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie Posted August 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Thanks for that but it's the original handle and escutcheon. There is no circlip shown on the Rimmerbros diagram which is why I was asking. The rod has a threaded end to take a locknut. Thank you all for your comments.. I figured that it should be as Danmi says. It isn't locked and is as far through the escutcheon as it is possible to go. To make it even more confusing I have now fitted the hinges and put the lid in place as I was beginning to think that I had a dodgy lid, but it latches just fine. However with the escutcheon in place the square section just does not reach the latch. As I say it's at least 1/2 inch short. I think I'm going bonkers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Ive not played withna early spit lock but is the a way you can mount the latch the wrong side of its mounting face 1/2" is about the thickness of the latch ???? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie Posted August 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Pete that's certainly something to investigate. Dan, is the latch on the inside or outside of the mounting plate on yours ? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 here is an example on the bay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mk2-spitfire-fibregalss-bootlid/253828500665?hash=item3b195b8cb9:g:JP4AAOSwheZaqqP7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 wsm is hopeless no pics try fitting the latch rewards of the mount not forwards , must be a good plan if thats a useless idea try stronger tea Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Thanks guys, I went online to find a photo as I was too lazy to go out to the garage and photograph one... didn't find a good photograph and instead found a few parts that I might need so it cost me £43 trying to help others... Crowdfund, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie Posted August 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 As you can see the profile of this lid is different from the one shown above. Where the lock is mounted it goes straight across whereas it should be indented which accounts for the fact that the operating rod is too short to go all the way through. O well, it's too late to return it now ! Strangely though, as I said earlier it latches perfectly well where it is ? Anyway I've taken it to Metal Mickey the local fabricator who is going to extend the rod by 30 mm which should do the trick. Thank you all for taking the time to help me, I shall keep taking my tea at normal strength and, O sorry about the 43 quid Colin but I'm sure you need all the bits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 That looks very much like mine, which all fits perfectly. That said, mine's a Mk3 - it's not impossible the factory modified the boot lid during production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 just a question,, you threw us by saying it was the original handle ?? but is this not the original lid so they were never a previously fitted matched pair ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie Posted August 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 No Pete, this is the first time they have met. As I said at the beginning it's a new lid but the original handle. Perhaps I used the wrong terminology when I said " refit ". Should have just said " fit ". If you wondering why I am asking for help with a simple thing like this it's because this car has been mothballed for several years due to lack of workspace until we moved here recently. Although I stripped it down myself and made loads of notes about various things ones memory tends to fade as the years go by. Anyway I'm approaching the completion of a body off rebuild now but I'm sure there will be more questions in the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 7 hours ago, aggie said: If you wondering why I am asking for help with a simple thing like this it's because this car has been mothballed for several years due to lack of workspace until we moved here recently. Although I stripped it down myself and made loads of notes about various things ones memory tends to fade as the years go by. We're not, it's what we all do, for exactly the same reasons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 7 hours ago, aggie said: this car has been mothballed for several years Define "several"? My Mk3 Spitfire was dismantled in 1990 and still isn't finished. As Colin says, we all do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Hello boys, okay so I used a little linguistic licence with the word "several". I bought the car in 1969 and drove it for 30 years. I was made redundant in 1998 and decided, then, as I had time on my hands ( after redecorating the house from top to bottom as you must ) that I would strip Lyzzie down and rebuild her. Went back to a new job in '99 and didn't have any time to spare for the next 13 years apart from the fact the I really did not have the space. We moved here two years ago after I retired and I now have the time and space. Thought you might like to see these from 1969. Still have the same girl too !! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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