Colin

Thank Iain. I will indeed do these things whilst the WD40 gets to soak that very dry joint!! 🙂 Definitive help indeed!

Thanks! I need more hans! 😉

Hokie Cookie! Thanks! Looking at the space available I shall have to bung the local Pixie some dough to get hands, spanners & ratchets in! But I will earth the column U/J & see what happens (does the cabin horn button need to be operated consecutively?)

My only last comment about this is: Why there??!! Just . . . Why there . . . ??? 🤣 (Mind you, I'll be back if I manage to clean it all up and it doesn't work . . . !!! Best, C.

Hi All, Well . . . I had completely forgotten about this part of the column . . thank the good Lord Cheeses for mobile phones! I had forgotten that it existed, in fact. And, mention of it by others led me to believe, (out of sight and out of mind as it is) that my late Herald obviously didn't have one. For those who will never understand the 'logic' of an artist, please see the YouTube rendition of "What Time Is It Eccles" Goons sketch. Looks like a good clean-up is needed ?? I will uindertake this and report back. MANY, MANY THANKS aas usual!! Simple task becomes a pain in the. . . . . Best, C.

Pete - thanks. What a place to put it! How heavy does the cabling need to be? Similar to my engine mount to steering rack? Or like the Engine earth strap (me thinks not - how the hell would anyone be able to connect either side of any U/J which exists?) Anyone have a good suggestion as to how to a) get to it b) affix a decent earth??!? Cheers All, C.

I mean . . . if it's under the shock absorber and engine mount turret & bracket, there's no chance of gettign to it!

Iain T . . . my current issue is . . . I don't appear to have a steering column U/J!! Can anyone show me a pic of their Herald engine bay depicting the location of this U/J, please? My previous photo shows a straight column shaft to the rack . . . Thanks All ! 🙂

As a Red Herring; My Bro' said if I earth the live side of a horn, it should activate it. All I got was a spark! 😄

I mean I say it used to work; if I'm truthful, I cannot for the life of me remember the last time I hooted anyone in it - or my current everyday car, for that matter!! 🙂

Hi Non-Member, Thanks. It used to work like that. This UJ which is being mentioned:- Please look at the pics I attach. I cannot see a U/J on my column in the engine bay (first pic). There's the collapse joint in the cabin (2nd pic). Other than that I can't see one . . . Its location, please? Also showing slack horn push (might look 'normal'?

Thanks! (I wish my phone would let me know there's been a reply or two!!) I had some severe cleaning of cabling connectors to do before reconnecting . . . The horn push spring is really slack (don't know how this has come about . . I recall a bit of the spring sticking out both sides of it, ready to push into the column top - but it only sticks out one side at the moment - and almost wants to come away from the unit itself. I will order another as it's obviously fading! This is my Earth engine mount to steering rack (secured under the grease nipple blanking nut). This is how it was previously and has always worked . . . I re-made it, yesterday and cleaned every last surface of the elements involved. Thanks, chaps. Will keep you posted.

Chaps, Dash back in (and everything working!!), I thought I'd make the most of the trailing 2nd horn wires (removed at some point in the past probably on 1st rough renovation decades ago) and comlete the horn set; I made a new bracket for the second o/s missing horn. Took receipt of new Lucas horns, high and low tones and, after removing the old corroded spades and renewing them, fitted them up. Simples. I had cleaned the 'pencil' spring connector at the sterring wheel horn end - I knew that could be oxidised at each end (and have bought a new replacement that didn't help). But - no sound. Horns bench tested, 12V across the terminals, in case the diaphragms were stuck. As expected, all good. Confused myself before by using a new multimeter that confusingly showed a phantom 12V on both terminals of each horn!! I really didn't think that would be the case, so I got over that by going analogue and used a 12V bulb, tested for being good across the car battery, on the 12V feed wire (in my case Brown only, double wire) of horn 1 earthed to a bracket that I'd sanded back to bright steel on a small patch. Nice, bright bulb illumination. I then connected the double Brown/Black wire of the other horn terminal and found in reality, there is no 12V feed - thank goodness. Same again for horn 2. Again, good bright bulb lighting on the Brown 12V live spade and nothing on the other. BUT . . . no sound from either horn when 'push' operated. I am now assuming the problem is further back up the line - Someone is going to talk about the disc connection behind the 'pencil-spring' and to check the wiring tag?? That requires wheel removal does it not (pain, if I remember having done it once decades before . . . ?? But if anyone has any ideas, I'd be grateful:- AND, Two Questions; 1) Do the horns require the bonnet to be in situ (clipped shut) to complete the earthing? 2) Does the horn push button (the one with the Logo and tag on the back) play any part in this other than the tag pusing the 'Pencil' sprung loaded connector which contacts the column disc? Because the brass/copper (?) spring which helps it sit in the column top, on mine, is quite slack. On-going thanks, Chaps!!

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Topping and Tailing . . . Herewith refitted, re-lacquered dashboard. Needed a replacement wiper switch; original had a strange spring arrangement which fell apart & I failed to fix! All powered up and I am staggered that everything works! Cheers to all for sll help advice & friendship shown during this work (which only started because my headlights failed to illuminate!!)!! Loxley's badge going on glovebox now! Best C.

Hi, Handmade 🙂. The varnish/lacquer had been peeling/dropping off in bits over a good many years. Hence, I 'steeled' myself to get to grips with it! Why it had been separating from the veneer surface is unknown - although extremes of temps in France over 10 years won't have helped! As it turned out, because of this, with a scalpel at the lifting edges, I was able to peel 4-5cm lengths of the stuff in one go. But you're right, that veneer is stupidly thin - I had no idea you could get such thin veneer! And of course, the dash is flat-ish, but not so flat that in sweeps of 180 grit it wouldn't wear away if sanded too enthusiastically! Fortunately I was able to stop m'self in time to realise and not take the damage too far! Anyway, she looks a bit like this now, waiting for a glissing of the heater box to dry before being re-installed (choke cable when in position gets in the way of painting the heater box). Thanks for all advices! Duly noted!! Best, Colin

Just been refurbing my dash (1970 1200 saloon) :- made the mistake of trying to clean the dealer's glovebox badge! Might be an interesting exercise to see how many Triumphs are still out there supplied by them!

😉 Yep, they were. I don't know what happened to mine !! C.

Thanks Wagger, Have e-mailed Newton. So will keep all posted! C.

Many thanks - good advice. Hadn't realised they did that sort of thing. I believe the Club supplies the millboard, but not (as far as I can recall from the Catalogue), not the edging . . . 🙂 Best, C.

Thanks Gary - yep, I know they weren't real chrome (steel based) items. I think mine were chromed aluminium. I will make an enquiry . . . (nice finishing touch) 🙂 Cheers! C.

Hi Gary, Yes! Those tiny rear chrome strips. The card's allright for the mo' (even 50 years in . . . ) ! D'you think Newton can/would supply the strips only (any knowledge)?? Best, C.

Hi Non-Member! Well, all I can say is mine's deffo a 1970 1200 saloon and it's the only one I've had (36 years) . . . so I suppose, yes, they did have them!! 😉

Chaps:- Just to add to my silliness . . . in the footwell, the (my) outer side cards used to have chrome plated aluminium channelled finishing strips running up the back (door edge). In my car, these disappeared a long time ago. Having seen many, many (renovations included) Herald photos, I can't recall seeing any with such embellishments. Do any of your cars sport these minor detail finishing elements? Moreover, has anyone any idea if they are still available?? Cheers, Colin.

Ta, Pete! C.