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Hi all. I’ve a MK3 Spitfire (EFi & 4 spd) and I’m putting a j type single rail OD gearbox in it. The OD ‘box doesn’t have a gear lever and I have absolutely no idea which or where to get one. Assuming I can just fashion a remote OD switch easy enough, can anyone tell me if a 4 spd or if not, which gear-lever I should look for that will fit? I haven’t actually tried my current 4 spd lever yet as planning to remove the original box this weekend so this may be a moot question but thought I’d ask now before I get stuck in  

thanks

Nick

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Single rail and 3 rail levers are not interchangeable. In both cases the OD version has a hole drilled length ways from the end with an exit hole a short distance down so the wiring can get to the knob switch. In all other respects OD and non OD are the same so if you want a remote switch the latter will work and is easier/cheaper to source like this 1500 Spitfire one on ebay...

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21 minutes ago, johny said:

Single rail and 3 rail levers are not interchangeable. In both cases the OD version has a hole drilled length ways from the end with an exit hole a short distance down so the wiring can get to the knob switch. In all other respects OD and non OD are the same so if you want a remote switch the latter will work and is easier/cheaper to source like this 1500 Spitfire one on ebay...

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As Johnny says, the gear levers aren't interchangeable. However, I believe the top cover, remote linkage and lever can be swapped over from the earlier box to the later one. Someone more experienced here may be able to confirm.

You also need to consider the overall length of the gearbox and overdrive assembly with J-type installed. Will the propshaft need to be shortened, and will the mount under the overdrive need to be modified??

I fitted a Dolomite 1850 box with J-type OD to my GT6. It required the very rare shorter OD adapter plate from a late Spit Mk4, a shortened main shaft for the gearbox and a homemade custom mounting plate for the overdrive.

You could avoid the rare Mk4 OD adapter and shortened main shaft by chopping the propshaft, cutting the transmission tunnel and making a new rear mount under the overdrive.... It's a can of worms.

Nigel

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Correct unless as Nigel suggested you change over the complete gear selector assembly - after all the internals of both gearbox types are essentially the same but it might complicate matters a bit...

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Gear lever arrived & went in no problem. Thanks

Next issue seems to be the 20 spline clutch plate I bought doesn’t fit on my flywheel 🤨

assume I maybe need a 1500 mk1V flywheel? Or can I get mine machined out, it’s lightened so I’d prefer to use it…

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  • 4 weeks later...

Quick update. I bought a marina clutch plate and it fitted perfectly.
while I was there I’ve dropped the diff & changed all the outer seals 
Had a shortened propshaft made … in 2 hrs! (Thank you North West Propshafts, amazing service!)

Ive rigged up the wiring and the solenoid clicks in and out in 3rd, 4th. Reversing lights work.  I’ve run it raised up on my QuickJack’s and all seems great, tight and leak free. Just need tidy up the wiring and refit the interior then drive the wheels off it 😁
thank you all very much for your input

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On 12/05/2024 at 21:36, SlickV8 said:

Quick update. I bought a marina clutch plate and it fitted perfectly.
while I was there I’ve dropped the diff & changed all the outer seals 

Did you have to replace the bearings when changing the diff side seals or did they come off pretty easy so were reusable?

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35 minutes ago, johny said:

Did you have to replace the bearings when changing the diff side seals or did they come off pretty easy so were reusable?

Any time I've gone to the bother of removing them, I've replaced the bearings, although if replacing the seals it's always on diffs that have been well used so they're probably well worn.

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20 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said:

Any time I've gone to the bother of removing them, I've replaced the bearings, although if replacing the seals it's always on diffs that have been well used so they're probably well worn.

Yes youre probably right Colin. Its just the diff is quiet running with its original bearings and the replacements might be those Korean things😲

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On 14/05/2024 at 18:06, johny said:

Yes youre probably right Colin. Its just the diff is quiet running with its original bearings and the replacements might be those Korean things😲

Identify the bearings required from the code round the outside, then buy GOOD replacements - not necessarily from a Triumph supplier but a good bearing supplier. I got Timken bearings, and other good brands online by researching the code. (The photo is of a front bearing but you get the idea.) Be very careful when removing the old bearing from the halfshaft, it's easy to distort the mounting flange with too much pressure and it'll never seal against the diff body again. Amazing the amount of oil that can seep out of such a tiny crack. Been there, still trying to rectify it!

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I know my experiments on production with leak solving was too many years ago but of all the types we tried this 574 stuff knocks the 

beans off any alternative , i still use it these days but its getting pricey and the cartridges purloined from the tracks shutting down has long run out  

it never goes hard till you exclude air so old stock is never wasted in an old tube etc.

and if you like orange its a plus  ha 

peter

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I just changed seals. Got to say it drives sooo nice. Drive line feels tight, no slop anywhere and the OD is just brilliant; should’ve done it years ago! I love it (again😀)

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