TFL Project 2030

[PeteH]

10 hours ago, Graham C said:

PeteH, can you explain why we are getting warmer winters and summers than we use to get?

Graham

You mean the same as has happened Historically for the Last "N" Millenia?. Just that without global media, and high general ignorance, was all put down to "act of god". So the religious orders could rake more money into their coffers and retain their hold on power?. One good extended Volcanic activity, ** throw`s more carbon into the atmosphere than mankind has done in the last 200years. Mankinds contribution is Puny, and the UK`s even smaller. 99.1% of which WE have no control over.

The REAL global issue, is FAR TO MANY PEOPLE. But they are needed by those who control the finance, feed the paranoia, and use to make even more money and cement their power base. Oh! and of course ferment wars to sell armaments for even more profit?

**, Ask yourself how much carbon and other pollutants the current activity in Iceland is creating?.

Pete

[Mjit]

15 hours ago, Graham C said:

Mjit, the problem with London is that they have become the centre of the country so attract the largest population, service industries, etc hence high use of personnel transport. I do believe the most capital per head for public transport is spent in London than anywhere in the country which does not seem to work in reducing your pollution at present.

Actually London has some of the lowest per-capita personal transport usage in the country, quite simply because across much of London public transport options are so good you don't need a car - and a car's usually the slowest way to get from A to B.

15 hours ago, Graham C said:

HS2 confirmed the idea that everything revolved around London, as the project always reference reduced times to get to London.

Stop falling for the marketing/PR story.  HS2 was never about reducing journey times between London and Birmingham/the North West but about the fact the section of the existing, originally LMS route between London and Birmingham and providing access to the North West is at capacity.  In short the train operators want to run more services on that route but there isn't any space to add more trains on the existing lines - and much of the route is boxed in with no room to lay extra tracks without massive compulsary purchases and demolitions...and if you're going to do that why would you do it on the slow, twisty, convoluted route the current tracks follow when you could put in a much straighter, modern high speed route - which has the side effect of being quicker and so reducing the journey time?

[Mjit]

11 hours ago, JohnD said:

You don't mean Routemasyer buses that were too expensive to run?  The £5 MILLLION he spent on Boris Island Airport?  Buying water cannon;  the cross-Thames cable car; the conversion of the Olympic stadium and the ArcelorMittal Orbit helter-skelt.  All costing nearly a BILLION pounds.  And all failed.  His only success as London Mayor was his own vanity.

Yea but there were the Boris bikes.  They've been successful.

 

 

 

Oh, hold on.  That was all set in motion by Ken wasn't it but didn't hit the streets until Brois was in office and the press love an alliteration too much to NOT call them "Boris Bikes".

[Mjit]

2 hours ago, PeteH said:

You mean the same as has happened Historically for the Last "N" Millenia?. Just that without global media, and high general ignorance, was all put down to "act of god". So the religious orders could rake more money into their coffers and retain their hold on power?. One good extended Volcanic activity, ** throw`s more carbon into the atmosphere than mankind has done in the last 200years. Mankinds contribution is Puny, and the UK`s even smaller. 99.1% of which WE have no control over.

The REAL global issue, is FAR TO MANY PEOPLE. But they are needed by those who control the finance, feed the paranoia, and use to make even more money and cement their power base. Oh! and of course ferment wars to sell armaments for even more profit?

**, Ask yourself how much carbon and other pollutants the current activity in Iceland is creating?.

Pete

Please stop reading the Daily Mail and those posts random people forward you on Facebook, neither are good for you.

Yes, volcanic activity does release a huge amount of green house gases, always has, always will - but is us adding MORE GHGs going to be making thing better or worse?  It's like having a paint chip expose the metal on your Triumph.  Ignoring it won't make it go away and over time it will start to rust - but dousing it in salt water will make it rust faster.

[Graham C]

36 minutes ago, Mjit said:

Actually London has some of the lowest per-capita personal transport usage in the country, quite simply because across much of London public transport options are so good you don't need a car - and a car's usually the slowest way to get from A to B.

So again to reduce pollution ban all fossil fuels transport, as you say public transport is good and low per capita personnel transport usage,you will not miss them.

36 minutes ago, Mjit said:

 

Stop falling for the marketing/PR story.  HS2 was never about reducing journey times between London and Birmingham/the North West but about the fact the section of the existing, originally LMS route between London and Birmingham and providing access to the North West is at capacity.  In short the train operators want to run more services on that route but there isn't any space to add more trains on the existing lines - and much of the route is boxed in with no room to lay extra tracks without massive compulsary purchases and demolitions...and if you're going to do that why would you do it on the slow, twisty, convoluted route the current tracks follow when you could put in a much straighter, modern high speed route - which has the side effect of being quicker and so reducing the journey time?

This point confirms my statement that London has made itself the centre of the UK, more capacity and reduced travel time. Unless Londoner are migrating out of London to the north of the UK, which I am not sure is happening in large numbers.

Anyway HS2 was promoted as extra capacity and quicker travel times to London to us above the River Trent.

 

[JohnD]

Absolutely, Mjit!   "Actually London has some of the lowest per-capita personal transport usage in the country, quite simply because across much of London public transport options are so good you don't need a car - and a car's usually the slowest way to get from A to B."

Son &Family live in London, and don't own a car.   They could but they don't need one, for day to day transport. Whenever I go yo stay, the extent and availability of public transport astounds me, and shows how poorly the rest of the country is serviced.

John

Edited April 19 by JohnD

[Graham C]

Well said Mjit, you beat me to it. I agree that there is a cycle to the heating and cooling of the earth, but the point is that this cycle time is shortening. The biggest difference being the human impact on the environment.

We humans have only be around on earth for 200,000 years, but really only 2000/3000 years where we developed towards  modern standards, starting with the bronze and iron age.

Graham

[Ian Faulds]

2 hours ago, JohnD said:

Absolutely, Mjit!   "Actually London has some of the lowest per-capita personal transport usage in the country, quite simply because across much of London public transport options are so good you don't need a car - and a car's usually the slowest way to get from A to B."

Son &Family live in London, and don't own a car.   They could but they don't need one, for day to day transport. Whenever I go yo stay, the extent and availability of public transport astounds me, and shows how poorly the rest of the country is serviced.

John

It's the same in japan, I worked in japan and wife's japanese, when we lived there you don't need a car as trains, buses etc are fantastic.

[Mjit]

Geez, can you imagine how some of the people who think the ULEZ is the end of the world would react if you sent them to Japan?  Never mind the number of toll roads and low emission zones I think their brains might turn to jelly when they walked into the car showroom and were told they couldn't buy a car without proof they had a parking space!