timjohnstone Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 A friend has what should be a 2ltr 6cyl Triumph engine, but would like to know what it's from. It's going in to a Spit6 project. The odd thing is that the engine number is on a riveted plate and not stamped on the engine block. Is this normal? Does it signify a Triumph Workshop "Rebuild" or "Exchange" engine or something? Any idea what is this engine number from? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Can you get full photos of each side? We can see exactly what you have. I suspect that may be a Vanguard engine perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 six pot vanguards are TDD V and Ws etc as its a riveted plate i would guess is a remufactured unit form heck knows who yes pictures would help a lot Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjohnstone Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 I'm waiting for further pictures - this is all I've got for the moment. Thanks for the replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 one of the head and pushrod side would help if you get some pics so its looking as a triumph 6pot from vit or GT6 as fan mounst are on the cranck damper but engine mounts lugs look to be being on the timing front plate is looking 2000 saloon of sorts maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Looks like the remains of an engine number under the plate. Drill the pop rivets out and see if that reveals anything? phrases like "should be" are worrying when it comes to this sort of work. I think you need to be clear what you have from the outset. What was the source of the engine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjohnstone Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Tempting Clive, but I bet the rivet holes will make the number underneath unreadable anyway, so might be a fruitless exercise. I'll go over there later today and take some socially distant photos from the garage door later and post them here when I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 That looks like an H to the left of the plate, which makes it a Vitesse engine? You would want to see the second letter and the suffix to get it exactly. Triumph Spitfire and GT6 Engine Numbers Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjohnstone Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Pictures as promised - apologies I didn't have more to begin with! As well as pinning down what engine this really is, we're particularly interested in what a riveted on engine number might mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 its a Mk2 engine has the Vit/GT6 engine mount cast holes tapped but the front timing plate has 2 hole lugs showing just dont remember them but they are shown on all model parts lists sorry bit of a bum steer there !!! so are correct . cant for the life think what they are used for , apart from the o/s one might take the stg rack earth lead ??? with a hint of an H its looking MK2 Vitesse Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, timjohnstone said: Pictures as promised - apologies I didn't have more to begin with! As well as pinning down what engine this really is, we're particularly interested in what a riveted on engine number might mean. Rivetted probably means reconditioned, by someone who is professional enough to want their mark on the block, maybe as a guarantee. It might even just stand for 'Triumph Engine'. It looks like a MK2 engine, probably Vitesse if that is an 'H' beside the rivetted plate; probably HC. Interesting shade of green... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 As above, the rivetted plate has been reversed stamped, which is a bit upmarket! As to what it means, nothing significant. At some point within the last 53 years it has been through a reconditioners. That could be=mean it is excellent, or even it could have one odd-sized bore (yes, that did happen, one bore has damage, so only that one gets bored and a new piston) If you want to know the health of the engine, head off and sump off. Measure bearing clearances etc and check bore wear. Otherwise cross fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, clive said: reversed stamped, which is a bit upmarket! or one of those machines on platforms and piers remember them put your money in and then spell your name wrong who's got a Tee shirt for an alloy plate you dare not show anyone Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: or one of those machines on platforms and piers remember them put your money in and then spell your name wrong who's got a Tee shirt for an alloy plate you dare not show anyone Pete I've got a lot of strangely elongated pennies, though... plus I was looking for chrome stick-on letters that match the font of the Herald bonnet lettering. When I bought the car it was a Trumiph Herlad and I'd like to rearrange the letters accordingly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 are the modern Locos heavy enough to spread a penny well a Herlad is fine these days you cant say its a hers or a his its both rubbish and PC at the same time Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjohnstone Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Thank you! All very helpful. It should be attached to a chassis later this week. Whilst the provenance isn't known, it has been rebuilt albeit decades ago, and the crank turned every month whilst it's been sat waiting to go in to a car. So with a little recommissioning it ought to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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