PatK Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hi All, I have been looking on the Club website to try and find if there is a Library of reference photos of our cars, with particular reference to under bonnet, interior, exterior and boot layout. I have probably missed it, but in particular I'm looking for an under bonnet photo of a Mk2 2L Vitesse with detailed photos of the inlet manifold and carb throttle and choke cable layouts also the fuel lines. My Vitesse has twin SU HS6s fitted and i want to return it to the correct Stromberg CD150 spec. Although I have a Triumph workshop manual for the car and it does shoe some photos of this the all important one showing the cable layout is missing. Many Thanks Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Here’s some pics of my carb setup Mk2 Vitesse Any more detail let me know Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 PatK, A reference work for Heralds and Vitesses, as good as John Thomason's for Spitfires and GT6s ("A Guode to Originality") is lacking. I've tried to persuade several gurus to take on the task! A partial substitute is the Haynes "Guide to Purchase and D-i-Y Restoration". While originality is not its puspose, it is full of pics of the parts on all these cars, and on the changing spec as production progressed. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Someone on another site was quite recently bemoaning the photos of our cars online, on sites such as Wikipedia. It seems authors of some entries have used their own cars, or photos of cars they know, which are often far from standard, as examples - the Courier Van is pictured with a Vitesse bonnet, and the Vitesse convertible has incorrect wheels. You'd think that an online encyclopaedia would, as a reference for many unaware of the subtle differences, need to have the proper items shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 My God! They should be horse whipped!😡 db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 The great power, and weakness of the Wiki is that it is written by its users. There is no back office of researchers, diligently seeking out the Truth in all its nakedness, but doing what they can with what they know, believe they know or have pictures to show what they know. The Courier in the Wiki entry is labelled "Triumph Courier van with front end from a Triumph Vitesse" the higlighted last words linking to the Vitesse entry. There are plenty of pics of proper Couriers, bu that one has been there since 2009 (Right click on the pic, then on "See More"), so clearly no one is disturbed enough to do anything about it! If that offends you, or anyone else, you or they can insert a picture of a proper Courier van. I won't even try to explain how to do that, it's here, on the Wiki! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Editing John PS The TSSC website, this one, has a page headed "The Cars". It doesn't even mention the Courier! Although it does include the original Triumph Roadster and all the other TRs up to TR8, the Renown, the Acclaim, the Stag, the Dolomite and the Toledo, none of them in the original "Sports Six" small-chassied Triumphs that included the Amphicar, which only had a Triumph engine! Horse whips at the ready! J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 it does have all the herald spitfire gt6 and vitesse pictures and the sports six title comes from the inaugural first meeting to form a club around the Vitesse6 marketed as the Sports Six it was Bill Sunderlands Wifes white Vitesse 6 that started all this club off.all those years ago Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 23 hours ago, JohnD said: PatK, A reference work for Heralds and Vitesses, as good as John Thomason's for Spitfires and GT6s ("A Guode to Originality") is lacking. I've tried to persuade several gurus to take on the task! A partial substitute is the Haynes "Guide to Purchase and D-i-Y Restoration". While originality is not its puspose, it is full of pics of the parts on all these cars, and on the changing spec as production progressed. John The Mike Costigan Book on Herald/Vitesse originality is a very good guide on how the cars came out the factory and the various changes over the years, I sold my copy years ago though😞. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gary Flinn said: The Mike Costigan Book on Herald/Vitesse originality is a very good guide on how the cars came out the factory and the various changes over the years, I sold my copy years ago though😞. Not a fortune to replace £13.40 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete-Guide-to-Triumph-Herald-and-Vitesse-The-by-Costigan-Mike-Paperback/303357791999? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: it does have all the herald spitfire gt6 and vitesse pictures and the sports six title comes from the inaugural first meeting to form a club around the Vitesse6 marketed as the Sports Six it was Bill Sunderlands Wifes white Vitesse 6 that started all this club off.all those years ago Pete Thank you, Pete, your knowledge is godlike! I thought it was six "Triumph" models, Herald, Vitesse, GT6, Spitfire, Courier and, er, Amphicar! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 John nowt to do with god, it took me a while when on COM to find just where the name originated from so its nothing to do with six chassis', six pistons , just the marketing of the Vitesse 6 dont think the boot badge had Sports 6 in the UK well something like that Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 The Six cars are: Herald, Vitesse, Spitfire, GT6, Amphicar and Any kit car based on the Herald/Vitesse Chassis (If my memory serves me correctly?!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary Flinn said: The Six cars are: Herald, Vitesse, Spitfire, GT6, Amphicar and Any kit car based on the Herald/Vitesse Chassis (If my memory serves me correctly?!!) Not sure about Amphicar, wasn't it Bond? I think the last bit is shortened to 'Specials'. That brings back a lot of memories! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: John nowt to do with god, it took me a while when on COM to find just where the name originated from so its nothing to do with six chassis', six pistons , just the marketing of the Vitesse 6 dont think the boot badge had Sports 6 in the UK well something like that Pete Yes, Pete, a friend in the US has a "Sport 6" which is what they called the Vitesse J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said: Not sure about Amphicar, wasn't it Bond? I think the last bit is shortened to 'Specials'. That brings back a lot of memories! Colin Yes you could be correct with Bond instead of the Amphicar, although there was a guy in the 80's with one who was in in the Club? In the 80's the car were shown on the front cover of the Courier around the Logo? Must have a look when I'm in the Loft again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I believed the explanation Gary gave for a long time, until I discovered that although the amphicar looks like a Herald and has a Triumph engine, it was made in Germany by the Quandt group. So I wouldn’t have thought it would qualify as one of the six. And I think this has been on here before, or maybe the old site, somebody posted an early Courier (l have an inkling early club mag wasn’t called the Courier) and it seems the God like being Mr Lewis is once again correct. Damn his vitals!!!! 😡 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Gary Flinn said: Colin Yes you could be correct with Bond instead of the Amphicar, although there was a guy in the 80's with one who was in in the Club? In the 80's the car were shown on the front cover of the Courier around the Logo? Must have a look when I'm in the Loft again! They used to have an Amphicar section in The Courier, written by David Chapman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hello, Ironically and closer to home the TSSC website site home page, under "About The Club" gives some clues: Founded in1977, the Triumph Sports Six Club (TSSC) has traditionally catered for Herald and Spitfire based vehicles including the Herald, Spitfire, Vitesse, GT6, Bond Equipe and Specials based on the mother chassis or mechanicals. As a further evolution, in 2002, the Club's 25th Anniversary year, the TSSC took on additional formal aims which included the promotion and preservation of Standard Triumph vehicles and their derivatives in general and hence opened its doors to owners and enthusiasts of all Standard Triumph cars. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 All is revealed, as I recalled that I had a copy of "Turning Circle" that preceded the Courier as the TSSC mag. And the masthead on the front cover looks like this: It shows clearly the Sports Six! Left to right, Bond, Vitesse, Herald, Spitfire, GT6 and a Special. I apologise to Bond owners for forgetting them, FAR more aligned to other Triumphs than the dreaded floating Hun! As this proves that Pete is infallible, should we not promote him from 10th Dan to Pope, or at the least Magisterium? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 when i had a Halo i tripped over it. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatK Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 19/11/2019 at 10:01, Paul H said: Here’s some pics of my carb setup Mk2 Vitesse Any more detail let me know Paul On 19/11/2019 at 10:01, Paul H said: Here’s some pics of my carb setup Mk2 Vitesse Any more detail let me know Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatK Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Thanks Paul, they are just what the doctor ordered and an extra thank you for going to so much trouble. I now have a reference that I can work to. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatK Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Gary Flinn said: The Mike Costigan Book on Herald/Vitesse originality is a very good guide on how the cars came out the factory and the various changes over the years, I sold my copy years ago though😞. Thanks Gary, I will see if I can get hold of a copy. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatK Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Paul H said: Not a fortune to replace £13.40 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete-Guide-to-Triumph-Herald-and-Vitesse-The-by-Costigan-Mike-Paperback/303357791999? Paul Thanks Paul, I've just bought it!! Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Cooper Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I think the club magazine has been the 'Courier' from the start. The 'Turning Circle' editions were published alongside, at irregular intervals, and each of these was focussed on one particular model of the Sports Six family. The 'Turning Circles' were quietly dropped and never mentioned again beyond the late 80s. It must have been very difficult to find sufficient material to fill a magazine based on just one variant and the Couriers of that time were often quiet 'thin', with some recycling of articles from earlier issues. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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