Chris A Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 56 minutes ago, Colin said: I wondered who would be the Eagle-eyed sleuth!! 😃 Most of us spotted them but didn't want to give away the location of your reserve stocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 😉 It's cold enough not to have to worry the fridge!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Colin said: 😉 It's cold enough not to have to worry the fridge!! I've left the fridge door open to let the warmer air out 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 Hi everyone. I want to say how great this forum is and the search function is a very useful tool. Why am I saying this, well . . You have probably guessed - I seem to have the same problem on my 13/60, it must have developed in the last month or so since I did a full lights check. Dash switch and ignition on : Main beam warning light on when column lever is in either dipped or full position, beam warning light comes on in flasher mode, no headlights. No full or dipped lights, everything else ok. From my quick(ish) rummage behind the dash I did find the purple wire and connector hanging and not connected to anything, should be connected to a black wire. I haven't found a spare bullet connector amongst the rat's nest so I guess this is the starting point this afternoon or tomorrow. Failing that it will be chase down a faulty earth. I HATE working on the wiring behind the dash for all the reasons you know. Maybe I can leave it until my local garage reopens in a couple of weeks and get him to do it. He has an interest it keeping me & the car happy, the last time it was in for work he and his future wife asked if I would be willing to lend it too them for the day of their marriage next year. For me no problems, I did say that every time there is a loose bolt or the oil needs topping up I'll bring it round for him to do 😁 Lunch time, much more fun than under dash wiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 Silly me, I've been living in France so long that . . . 1 hour ago, Chris A said: the purple wire and connector hanging and not connected to anything, should be connected to a black wire. The wiring diagramme labels the wire as 'N' which my brain said is for 'noir', which it isn't it actually stands for 'brown'. Not that I spotted an unconnected brown connector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitFire6 Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 N is Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, SpitFire6 said: N is Brown Don't rub it in 😉, as I said above. Spotted it when I decided to print off a new copy of the diagramme and highlight the lighting circuit. Brain is overheating, I think I'll leave it until tomorrow morning when it should be cooler outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 I've just been outside to tidy the bits in the car away until tomorrow and thought I'd have another squint at the wiring. I found a brown wire that is connected to a purple one from the column switch loom. So the spare purple is what? I have looked at the wiring diagramme and can't find any other circuit with a purple wire, can anyone confirm this, car is a 13/60. It could be that at some point a PO ran a new wire from the fuse or somewhere along that run to the brown. Tomorrow, hopefully, is circuit tester and a logical mind to trace the wiring through, I have confirmed the fuse is good and power reached the fuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 Chris, By the sounds, like me, you are wary & not exceptional at things wiring. All I would say is; if you have time, deffo dip under the bonnet and clean/re-make every last connector of all that cross-bonnet lighting wiring. It's situated exactly where 50 years crud gathers - and at that age, those connectors would become that way, anyway. I cleaned/re-made all mine, got some spilt cable tidies (inch/inch & a half), shoved all the new wiring into it and sealed the ends against the atmosphere with amalgamating self-seal tape. Should last another fortnight at least!! Best, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 There's an interesting scenario there where the purple wire, from the horn, connects to a brown and black wire, and the brown wire, from the flasher switch, connects to a purple one. I've seen it before where the colours have been connected like to like causing more than head scratching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 your neck bone's connected to your . . . leg bone . . . your leg bone's connected to your rib bone . . . (etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Colin said: your neck bone's connected to your . . . leg bone . . . your leg bone's connected to your rib bone . . . (etc) True and just like the car's headlights they don't work as they should in my case 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said: There's an interesting scenario there where the purple wire, from the horn, connects to a brown and black wire, and the brown wire, from the flasher switch, connects to a purple one. I've seen it before where the colours have been connected like to like causing more than head scratching! Don't know about that but the horn does work, tested today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 12 hours ago, Chris A said: Don't know about that but the horn does work, tested today. Did the lights flash at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: Did the lights flash at the same time? Couldn't see as I had my head under the dash at the time, hence the impromptu test of the horn 📯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 21 hours ago, Colin said: By the sounds, like me, you are wary & not exceptional at things wiring. I don't mind doing electrics, just hate having to work upside down, bent in 3 directions in a cramped space under the dash. In fact when we bought our first property here in France it wasn't even connected to electricity, never had been since it was built ( we worked it out as being 1803 from archived plans in the Mairie and its name 'L'An Dix'). Once we had EDF bring mains to the house I did all the wiring, to French norms into the bargain. With electrics you just have to be logical, methodic and have a good selection of swear words to hand! I spent the morning with a copy of the wiring diagramme as set of notes with what to check in a logical order to isolate the 'culprit'. I started by checking which of the purple wires was in fact connected to the fuse, it turned out to be the one that wasn't being used so swapped them over - the lights had been working with the other one which I now suspect was a replacement from some point back in time, why I don't know. No change to the situation. Confirmed I was getting power to the column switch. Ran a test wire from battery to via multi metre to main beam wire running across front of car under bonnet, power to the lights but no lights. Checked all the connections and then found I had main beam. Main beam warning light on. Switched to dip and no warning light, as it should be, it was lighting up even on dip even though no dipped beams. Checked the main beam flash function, it wasn't working yesterday when I tried it with my charming assistant who needed help to get out of the car after wards, today I used a piece of wire to hold it in the 'on' position as my assistant was 'resting'. Now lights up and activates main beam. Dipped lights still not working. Did the same test as for main beam and checked the connections under the bonnet, dipped now working. Closed bonnet and retested main/flash/dip, all fine still. All I can assume is that there was some dodgey connection in the circuit that I have now sorted, at least for a while. Note to self : check all lights each time I use car. Hate it when the problem is solved and I don't know 100% why. Can now move on to enjoying a drive out Tuesday/Wednesday to cover the part of the Paris Brest Paris cycle ride that comes through the village tonight and tomorrow morning as they head to Brest and Wednesday when theu come back. Mad bu**ers, 1200Kms to be covered in 70 hours! 6800 riders from 70 countries this year, it happens every 4 years. For Wednesday certain of us will have a free drink & snacks stand at the road side, plus blankets for those that need to crash out. There is more to life than Triumphs, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 So I'm curious as to how many props you have in France? I bought and our family renovated a Maison de Maitre in Burgundy 2004 onward for several years. It was idyllic (long story!!). I envy you 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 We bought the first in 1990, moved here in 1994. My wife bought a small village house as a workroom at the time when she was still doing work for theatres in Britain but shortly after just did work for Disneyland in France. We sold the first one in 2007 and moved into a house in the village and when my wife retired in 2009 she sold the workroom. So just the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 Nice! Well done on the working the lights thing out. We had our place - built in two mirror image halves; one 1739 & then 1841 rewired. Given their mains wall sockets have no ground, I recall purple wiring being in the mix and even though I wrote it all down after a Google search, still didn't really understand what that did!! 🤣 Best, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, Colin said: Given their mains wall sockets have no ground You must have done the rewiring a while ago when it was normal for the sockets to be for 2 pin plugs. Now they have an earth, a pin not socket this way old 2 pin items can still be plugged nto them. The current (🙄) house still has a couple of these sockets dotted about the place. 47 minutes ago, Colin said: I recall purple wiring being in the mix After serious thread drift we are back on track due to the mention of 'purple wiring'. Assuming the circuit isn't a 3 phase, then the purple could just be a live. From my book, in French, the colour specs are given as: Green/yellow : earth Blue: neutral Red or any other colour with the exception of blue, green or yellow : live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 21 hours ago, Chris A said: Mad bu**ers, 1200Kms to be covered in 70 hours! Wish they rode that fast over here, when they're in front of me it's usually 70kms in 1200 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: Wish they rode that fast over here, when they're in front of me it's usually 70kms in 1200 hours. Actually I mislead you they have a maximum of 90 hours, so they are slower than you thought. Our watering hole was manned until 4am this morning then opened up again in time for the last batch of riders this morning. They leave in several groups at fixed intervals over a 12 hour period, the last setting off at 5am this morning. At midnight there was a constant stream of headlights coming up the hill to the village. anyone in a car trying to pull out onto the main road would have been well advised to turn round and find a different route. https://www.magisto.com/video/PAIBOwUEQy81RAJpYw?l=vsm&o=i&c=c&fbclid=IwAR2X5cl6WgcozzY3gfL5y5cyGQjz6nx16988wZ68MqO5ffgx_jhtoyfM1lk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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