TwigNshiz Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Hiya sadly someone has fitted (badly) what looks to be R6 lines im assuming that a R9 upgrade would be needed? ive included a picture incase i am misidentifying the lines. Many thanks -Twig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 think R9 is now Gates Barricade at R14 as sold by club shop from Gates Barricade® Fuel Injection Hose | Gates Corporation take care much fleabay /aftermarket stuff is low grade (fake) and you will get early life problems Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Looks like it should run over the back near the skin and come out through the floor behind the rear wheel. The original was metal running along the underside of the car, clipped to the chassis, and up to the top of the tank where there was a short rubber pipe to connect to the tank outlet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Yes, Gates Barricade is the stuff to go for, I had some fake R9 fail spectacularly, it decayed internally and turned into a one way valve. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: think R9 is now Gates Barricade at R14 as sold by club shop from Gates Barricade® Fuel Injection Hose | Gates Corporation take care much fleabay /aftermarket stuff is low grade (fake) and you will get early life problems Pete oh i see so a rebranding ? or is it better ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said: Yes, Gates Barricade is the stuff to go for, I had some fake R9 fail spectacularly, it decayed internally and turned into a one way valve. Doug Awsome thanks just not sure why someone would put r6 in i thought that was for diesel and oil etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 no apparently R6 was used for petrol carburettor cars in 70s and 80s but isnt enough for fuel injection and so of course never designed with ethanol resistance in mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, johny said: no apparently R6 was used for petrol carburettor cars in 70s and 80s but isnt enough for fuel injection and so of course never designed with ethanol resistance in mind... got ya and with e10 being a thing now thats a big problem hence R9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Thats it. Do you know if the hose has been run all the way along the underside of the car and if its been done properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TwigNshiz said: oh i see so a rebranding ? or is it better ? R14 is low predssure hose that is ethanol resistant. So "different" to R9. R9 is possibly more common as it is suitable for injection cars. The important thing is to buy from a proper supplier (NOT AFS on ebay! theirs was fake, no idea if it is OK now or not, but why take the risk) GAtes, Coden, Cohline. All proper stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, johny said: Thats it. Do you know if the hose has been run all the way along the underside of the car and if its been done properly? its not done proper its curently hanging from the bottom a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, clive said: R14 is low predssure hose that is ethanol resistant. So "different" to R9. R9 is possibly more common as it is suitable for injection cars. The important thing is to buy from a proper supplier (NOT AFS on ebay! theirs was fake, no idea if it is OK now or not, but why take the risk) GAtes, Coden, Cohline. All proper stuff. smashing awsome thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Are you sure you dont want to install the Triumph design of metal pipe? You can use copper which fits in the correct clips that use the existing holes along the chassis and might even work out cheaper... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 11 hours ago, johny said: Are you sure you dont want to install the Triumph design of metal pipe? You can use copper which fits in the correct clips that use the existing holes along the chassis and might even work out cheaper... no i havent looked in to it i will do tho canley classics sell a kit i think the pipe bending looks like a pain tho. would it hold up better ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 there is no reason the main chassis run is not done with a nylon/plastic fuel pipe it thats more suited to how you wish to run /fix and easy to fit compared to metal pipes just an idea pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 I just bought a length of copper pipe and found it very easy to make smooth bends in it by hand along the chassis and up at each end to the fuel tank and pump connections. Hopefully your clips are still in place as they are shared with the front to rear brake pipe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: there is no reason the main chassis run is not done with a nylon/plastic fuel pipe it thats more suited to how you wish to run /fix and easy to fit compared to metal pipes just an idea pete that was my idea plastic main section then copper from the pump to the carb, im also trying to future proof the lines as i have some ideas for engine swaps down the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 hmmm not convinced by plastic/nylon pipe as unlike metal it will want to straighten itself out so for example where it passes through the front outrigger and then has to turn quite sharply through 90º to come up to the fuel pump theres no existing location for a fixing to keep it in place.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 I'm with johny on this. The nylon pipe used on later big saloons is all very well if the routing is designed for it, but for a Herald you need pipe that can be bent to shape. Copper is easy to do (although I do use a proper pipe bender for the more dramatic bends). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwigNshiz Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 sadly thats going to have to wait as i have just found some terrible repairs done to the car 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 This shows the pipe run, and the adjacent Brake pipes. I guess it could be done in a decent quality "nylon"?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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