AidanT Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Hi all, Well after a six month break which has turned into three years the original post for has now gone. Yesterday I dusted off the block and have started the rebuild from the boxes and plastic bags of replacement parts and original parts. I will be asking for all your guidance once more Block rebuilt with pistons and new rings but not turned over for three years (Dry stored) Any precautions I should take to start with? TIA Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Did it have oil in it or dry?, I would be tempted to put a drop of oil in each bore.If everything was liberally oiled when built it should be ok. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 It was put back to its current state with assembly lubricant yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Then I would build it up,fill it with oil,prime the pump with a drill in the dizzy drive gear hole and go for a start. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Plenty of oil, as the guys here say! My estate engine is the same, rebuilt over lockdown with new pistons etc but hardly rotated since, so I'll watch to see how your startup goes. I'll take the rocker off and pour oil over the rockers, plus down into the oil pump from above before replacing the dizzy which will be the final step. I reckon there'll be a goodly number of rotations by a socket on the cranknut or on the starter, before we try adding fuel. Let us know how things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) Hi again Can someone please confirm the torques settings for the oil pump to block please - my search came up with two different answers Thx Edited July 7, 2023 by AidanT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted July 7, 2023 Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 My free to download Vitesse/GT6 manual says 8 - 10 lb.ft and the pumps are very similar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 And the sump to the block if you have them, as I read the front and rear two need to be less as they go into the aluminium seals and not the block, so two settings needed Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted July 7, 2023 Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 Sump says 16 - 18 lb.ft and they should maintain minimum of 8 lb.ft after a settling period (in other words the spring washers have to be good). No mention of the bolts that go into the aluminium bridge pieces and I reckon these should be the same to assure oil tightness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Hi Quick question on the front sealing block Gasket - the original part no was 150531 but now told to use UKC8321 which is two smaller gaskets in my kit https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-UKC8321 How are these fitted / orientated please? Aidan Edited July 8, 2023 by AidanT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 This is a strange one because I dont think a gasket was used on the mk1 six cylinder engine - I can only find it on Canley's drawing of the mk2 and is not mentioned in the workshop manual. This follows my own experience as when I tried to use the subsitute UKC8321 gaskets on my mk1 the aluminium bridge piece wouldnt sit flush with the base of the block and the sump gasket would never have sealed. In the end I just used a sealant and no gaskets.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, johny said: This is a strange one because I dont think a gasket was used on the mk1 six cylinder engine - I can only find it on Canley's drawing of the mk2 and is not mentioned in the workshop manual. This follows my own experience as when I tried to use the subsitute UKC8321 gaskets on my mk1 the aluminium bridge piece wouldnt sit flush with the base of the block and the sump gasket would never have sealed. In the end I just used a sealant and no gaskets.... Hi Johny - the engine I am working on is a Mk2 I was told that its a better engine so plumped for it as a sort of upgrade!! Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Ah in that case you can just about see in this pic where the gasket sits on the bridge piece. They match the shape of each of its end where it seals up into the block... Edited July 8, 2023 by johny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Thanks The triangled shaped ones that I received are just a poor fit I think, just aligned them to the screw holes as bast I could - will last have a trim to do Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Should look like this and you can see it matches the bridge piece in the previous pic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Hi Does anyone have or know of a step by step rebuild guide they could point me to please? I've watched a few you tubes but am old fashioned and like a hard copy guide if at all possible. I do have a strip down one from Practical classics and have ALL the manuals but wondered if there was another that I could get my hands ✋️ on One that gave a bolt by bolt rebuild with the torque settings included would be brilliant TIA. Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 I use the 1970's Brown Haynes Manual for the text in conjunction with the Factory Issue. The Haynes manual is more "Wordy" and aimed at the DIY-ers of that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 If I remember rightly the Guide to Restoration by Lindsay Porter (now a Haynes edition?) has a section on engine stripdown and rebuild with plenty of photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Longhurst Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 The Haynes Manual was my go to back in the late 70s/80s & guided me through engine rebuilds as well as suspension, brake & gearbox work. My original copy was so oil stained I had to buy a new copy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: If I remember rightly the Guide to Restoration by Lindsay Porter (now a Haynes edition?) has a section on engine stripdown and rebuild with plenty of photos. This the one Colin? https://www.wob.com/en-gb/books/lindsay-porter/triumph-spitfire-gt6-herald-vitesse/9780854295838 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Or this ? https://www.wob.com/en-gb/books/lindsay-porter/classic-car-restoration/9781850108900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 Question on spring washers. Can I use the originals? Or do I need uo replace them all? If replacements, where is had best source and is there a set available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) On 09/07/2023 at 09:16, AidanT said: Does anyone have or know of a step by step rebuild guide they could point me to please? I've sourced a step by step rebuild from some backdated practical classics- it's on an SC engine and I know some of the torques mentioned will need double checking, but it's a good basis to work from Aidan Edited July 13, 2023 by AidanT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 with lots of production torque trials in the 80s we decided spring washers were waste of time Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted July 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Pete Lewis said: with lots of production torque trials in the 80s we decided spring washers were waste of time Pete Thanks Pete I will keep with the originals then, if only for the appropriate spacing! Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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