Peter Truman Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 The GT6 Oil Filter bowl and hence filter appear shorter in depth/height than the Vitesse and 2000/2500 Saloon as the GT6/Spitfire chassis is the same at the front as the Vitesse/Herald why would this be. I assume that the Vitesse would fit and clear the chassis/ side engine shields. Can anyone advise I'm curious and its of general interest only. Regards Grumpy Rabbit Peter T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Peter. I presume you have the seperate element and bowl ?? Unless happy with that set-up, how about considering the spin-on filter option; it's a better filter option with the benefit of anti-drain back which I'm confident that the separate element does not have unless such a mechanism is incorporated within the head assembly but unlikely. Just a thought. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Richard is correct, the oil drains back in the original GT6 oil filter set up. I put the spin on/off convertor on mine to get the benefit of modern canisters with anti-drain back. It's a crude mechanism and some canisters work better than others. There was a guy on the old web site who manufactured a tool to test canister efficiency. He lined up all the motor factors canisters on the counter and blew into his tool to find the best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Doug youre on the wrong forum again !!! to much inserting going on it was Dell Holman he's a COM member Not many on Com use the Forum old one or present....... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 When I said tool, I ment the one he'd manufactured not............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 You're right that the GT6 and Vitesse filter bowls and filters are different sizes. I found out by buying GT6 filters for the bowl that I acquired from Pete Lewis (which I presume came from his Vitesse) - they were too small... So yes, the bowls are interchangeable. As to why they are different sizes, I've no idea! I removed the spin on conversion from my GT6 - never managed to get the spin on filters to seat properly and clearance to the chassis rail made it a messier job than with the bowl type. Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Thanks folks for the feedback Re the spin on filters I also had one fitted never looked right to get adequate clearance If I remember correctly it had to sit slightly uphill pointing forward to clear the blow off valve and other protrusions, so I thought it defeated the reflux action and drain back, so I too switched back to the paper elements. I notice a lot of modern cars are going back to replaceable paper elements BUT they are soo soo small, you wouldn't dare leave the service too long Still no logical response why the GT6 filter is not as high as the other 6 potters. I learnt a long time ago NOT to try and understand Triumph's reasoning and still after 50 years exclaim "Why would they do that": I've had Triumphs since 1967, starting with a 66 Herald Conv JBA37D, which replaced a 61 Mk1 Frog Eye Sprite, OH what a breath off fresh air the Herald was. The Mk2 Vitesse came back to Oz with me in 1974 & its still in the garage, but its got a 66 Spitfire (daughters) & 76 Sprint as mates Regards PeterT (aka Grumpy Rabbit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 oil change capacities in the WSM are same for Vit and GT6 doent mean thats spot on, most changes in later life are generally cost driven , not just a smaller cartridge but on the line you might save a cup full on every engine fill ...its adds up to a lot of oil over the production run. over the years all sorts of these idea abound like only fill to the minimum level then the dealer foots the top up before delivery and makes a warranty claim. then costs comes from the warranty bucket, funded from the sales revenue not the production costs . warranty costs are born in the purchase price ...see who wins .....if you get the idea ,there's a lot of politics in vehicle sales all funded by the customer one way or another Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I notice a lot of modern cars are going back to replaceable paper elements BUT they are soo soo small, you wouldn't dare leave the service too long I'm fighting the temptation to reply to some of the other answers but once bitten... HOWEVER the wife's Freelander has a paper filter, incredibly small for the size of the engine, plus almost impossible to get at. The engine is a Peugeot-designed block never intended by them to be shoehorned into the Freelander, but adapted by Landrover meaning that the oil filter is squashed between the block and the radiator. It's only accessible from below and I can't even get my hand up there. You have to buy a 27mm swivel head spanner to get the casing off then pull the element out. Last time I did it, the element was almost solid with gunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 My daughters Holden Commodore/Omega 3.9lt V6 has an incredibly small paper element easy to get at the top of the engine adjacent to and level with the V6 rocker cover, its mounted in a beautifully made alloy holder with a screw top, BUT size wise it's about the size of a lawn mower air filter approx. 100mm long and 45mm dia. The issue is getting the air flow deflector off the sump to remove the sump plug, the guard is around 600mm sq slotted in at the front then fixed with around 6no. 13mm bolts that fix into the body and protrude around 25mm past the captive type nut WHY!! whatever happened to good engineering of around 2 threads protruding, good job were not in Europe where they would RUST, Bl**dy fast assembly air guns. The sump guard is a bugger to remove and replace. The irony is the daughter helped to design the car, but her excuse is not that bit the driveline!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Modern cars are not designed to be fixed by their owners, they are deliberately designed NOT to be fixed by their owners. Dealership support, that's where the profit is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 one y wife's rover broke dow Modern cars are not designed to be fixed by their owners, they are deliberately designed NOT to be fixed by their owners. Dealership support, that's where the profit is! When my wife's Rover broke down a few years ago her uncle, not knowing any better, towed her to a local dealership. Once I heard, I removed it immediately. It was there for two hours and the dealership, without even looking at it, charged me almost £400. Admin costs and use of their parking, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin42 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 I can't find the oil filter for my MK3 GT6 with a spin on oil filter. The one fitted says it's a GFE 374 but I can't find that one anywhere. Please would you tell me what one I should fit. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 it is a 3/4" UNF thread. Ford escort mk3 is a good size at 80mm high But just about any ford or VW filter will have the correct thread http://www.eurocarparts.com/oil-filter (though I would buy the bosch or mann version, remember there is 35% off at ECP with their never ending discount code) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Or, buy from the club shop, postage for four the same as for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin42 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Thanks but I did ask the shop who said they didn't have any and the club shop web page doesn't show one either. Will go to europarts but which one should I buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 The club shop web page shows GFE 166, suitable for the spin on/off conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin42 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Would that be a non-return version? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 The ad says "with non return valve" so it might well be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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