Jeffds1360 Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just removed the cowling on my herald to investigate "non returning" indicator. Now, the top and bottom screw hole fittings are "handed". I.E. one is flat and one is domed. So, it can only fit one way round as the aftermarket overdrive switch fitted on my 13/60 must be forward of the indicator or it would foul the steering wheel. When i removed the left hand half, i found that the 'transfer' showing side,main and dip positions was on the BACK of the cowl! ???. How weird is that? Does any car have the O/D switch in front of the indicator stalk? ( closer to the driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 well without knowing just what my OD cowl came off but the OD switch was on the light switch stalk side & fwd of it not the indicator side it came from a scrappy as it had a toggle switch fitted ( yuk) but memory of who or how long gone , along with the car Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Now that's interesting! Maybe I could swap sides? I guess some PO has stuck the transfer on upside down or backwards and if I swap them over I might end up indicating with my lights???. My Honda usually turns corners with the wipers going and I flash when squirting the screen!. Pleased I am not left handed and going mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Is the indicator not returning ie turning off when the wheel is rotated, or is it not clicking into place when the arm is moved up or down? O/D lever is on the right and closest to the dash. The two fittings on the cowl fit into each other ie the domed one is the outer, and the flat one goes in underneath; so you should have a domed one on top, then a flat under, and the underside will follow suit. If you match like for like then one side or the other is going to be back to front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 On my vitesse mk2 the od stalk is on the rhs with the indicator arm in front Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Yes, like mine Paul. Colin, indicator will not return, very often, after a left turn. It clicks back solidly after right turn but sort of 'blops ' back occasionally after left turn. My real surprise was finding the transfer on the wrong side of the lighting stalk side! He had maybe had it on upside down so flat to flat and dome to dome I cannot rotate them as the od would be either too close to wheel or on the left..... then it would be up or down off or down or up on or where I left it.. but only in 3rd and 4th of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 you can just see the stalk end hiding the clock pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Mine is on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 On the right is the correct, factory location, as shown in Paul's photo. I don't know why Pete's was on the left but it doesn't look quite like the standard stalk, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I guess that with mine being a modification, the PO must have used a cowl fropm a left handed O/D car and put it on backwards. Thus the lights transfer was on the back! I've used a tipex pen to draw the little lighting symbols on, in case I forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 once youve turned them off going into a bend instead of being on main you tend to remember it should be up off/sides only 1st down main 2nd down dip get it wrong it goes very DARK transfers do turn up on various sites see the post on engine bay stickers http://www.classicrepro.co.uk/Triumph.htm they guy who bought my Vit6 phoned and complained the indicators didnt work there again he was using the headlamp stalk ....worrying pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Yes Pete, cheers, not been out in the dark yet..... not been out in the wet either. My CR-Z is back to front, My Amica is 'correct' (I'm surprised at Honda, what with them driving on the left. I have to 'think' every time I indicate when in that. .... gears and indicators on the left. Right hand for wipers only. Bloody stupid idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Yep the od should be on the right behind the indicator. I find the indicators don't cancel because the steering column with the cancelling clip is in the wrong place. With the wheels straight ahead the clip should be in the centre of the 2 lugs on the indicator switch if not undo the clamp near the steering rack pull the column out and rotate til in the correct place. you should also have (or at least on mine) a elongated O on the end of the column which should be vertical with the wheels straight ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 54 minutes ago, Jeffds1360 said: (I'm surprised at Honda, what with them driving on the left. I have to 'think' every time I indicate when in that. .... gears and indicators on the left. Right hand for wipers only. Bloody stupid idea Back when I worked at Rover, when the press briefly decided not to automatically deride everything they did just because they were British, the comment was sometimes made that the switch gear made the journalist feel like the indicators were going to be "on the wrong side" - meaning the correct, right, side - because it looked like Honda's switch gear, where the indicators would have been on the right. Because Japan is a RHD market like Britain. Over the last 20 years, even the Japanese have given up on being logical about it and towed the stupid industry line that Britain, being part of Europe, should have European-style switch gear with the indicators on the left, as you'd want with a LHD car. Perhaps that could be the one and only good thing to come out of Brexit but I don't hold any hopes because this idiocy never had anything to do with the EU, it was merely a cost-of-complexity decision because Japan is the only other significant RHD market (and they don't buy many foreign cars). Decide to fit the same steering column to all cars and you're going to choose the LHD one because that's where you sell most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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