Pete Lewis Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 A part from a good scraper, ring compressor, torque wrench, oil can feeler gauges a can of brake cleaner To degrease stuff its just normal diy garage tools and a strong bench if new pistons then a bucket of hot water to heat the pistons to get the gudgeon pins in. keep cam follower and pushrods paired up where are you based , has anyone in the area a hoist to hire? pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 If your around Cambridge area I can lend you my crane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Caswell Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 If your stuck for a piston ring tool, careful use of a large jubilee clip works OK best of luck with the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I'm in South Staffordshire. Not far from Wolverhampton / Telford / Stafford. Strong bench is an issue too. I was planning on doing this on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 E mail the staffs AO see who can lend a hand Jubly clips can work but best to wrap shim stock around the piston to smooth out the clip clamps ebay shows loads of proper sealey ones for £10 so get one , not worth cutting corners and wrecking a ring The floor is fine , its knee, s that restrict floor crawling and low level journal twiddling pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishmosh Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 or pop to the shropshire meet on wednesday. Horseshoes Uckington. between wellington and shrewsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 or pop to the shropshire meet on wednesday. Horseshoes Uckington. between wellington and shrewsbury I did come along last summer when you were in Little Wenlock - really friendly group. Wednesday's are currently no good for me as my wife is doing a Uni course and I have the kids on my own every Wednesday. Do you still meet twice a month? (or did I imagine that!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Still thinking this through. Only no.4 seems to be causing problems. Do I only replace the rings in no.4 and leave the other pistons alone on the basis that they're bedded in and working or is this bad practice? I would rather do the job properly as the car is a keeper, but no point creating extra work / expense if not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 to keep the piston loads equal its generally best to use a full set so they all are 'equal' you dont want one stiff set and 5 bedded, worn and free'er Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I've borrowed an crane from a member in Shropshire group and planning to get the engine out on Saturday. Most posts I've read show the engine and gearbox being removed as a unit. Is this the advised method or is it ok to just remove the engine? Cheers. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 its best to remove as a pair, trying to re align an engine to the in situ gearbox can be very frustrating and much up a bit down a bit and much faffing around . you will need to remove the bonnet to take the assy out, and put a strong board across the screen best if the hoist has a adjustable spreader beam Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 No doubt what the problem was - see pic. of piston no.4. No.3 also broken. Massive thanks to Dave Embery and Bob for their help with getting the engine out and stripped. It makes it so much easier to have the support of people who know what they're doing. The bores are unmarked so can hopefully get away with new pistons and a hone rather than a rebore, but we reckon the bits of ring found their way to the journals on no. 4 so a crank regrind is needed. Going to take the block and crank into a local machine shop but plan to do the rebuild with help from Shropshire Group. My friends think I'm mad, but thoroughly enjoyable task so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishmosh Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Shrops group meet once a month. Third we'd. North shrops 1st wed I think ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 so the puffs from the breather were the indicator of the culprit ,, glad you have found something at last Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted November 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Totally stripped now and well through the task of meticulously cleaning and bagging / labelling everything. My hands look like I've been wrestling a hedgehog but quite satisfying so far. Hoping to get the block and crank in for machining later this week + gearbox over to Mike Papworth (seems daft not to while its's off). ... and of course while there is no engine in the car I can get at bits of chassis that I've never seen before so bit of stripping and painting on the cards. No rush, but going to crack on while I still have motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Been quiet for a while.... but it all kicks off tomorrow. Bill, Dave, Dave and Simon from Shropshire TSSC are coming to help put everything together again. A picture paints a thousand words - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Been quiet for a while.... but it all kicks off tomorrow. Bill, Dave, Dave and Simon from Shropshire TSSC are coming to help put everything together again. A picture paints a thousand words - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 James, Assembly will be much less hard on the hands than disassembly, but please consider vinyl gloves and barrier cream. Professionals will use both these days, and the gloves are remarkably robust. For really dirty/rough jobs, semi disposable, close-fitting cotton gloves, reinforced with plastic or rubber cost make skin injuries unlikely. I know its "H&S" but its worthwhile. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 James, Assembly will be much less hard on the hands than disassembly, but please consider vinyl gloves and barrier cream. Professionals will use both these days, and the gloves are remarkably robust. For really dirty/rough jobs, semi disposable, close-fitting cotton gloves, reinforced with plastic or rubber cost make skin injuries unlikely. I know its "H&S" but its worthwhile. John Pack of 100 disposable gloves just to right of shot! (3rd pack of 100 in a couple of months!) Hands will still be bu%%ered on Monday morning though I am sure. I'd like to get the bottom end rebuilt and back on the car with the gearbox by tomorrow evening.... (oily and scarred) fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Great day. Massive thanks to Simon, Dave, Dave and Bill for all their help today. 10am Garage full of engine bits 11am Things starting to rotate and move in the block 12noon Its looking like an engine 2pm its looking like a gearbox and engine 3pm Its in the car!!! 4pm Head on 6pm out of time ... and I do need a few more bits but the hard work is done. Brilliant - thanks TSSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishmosh Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 The A team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 SHE LIVES!!!!!! Massive thank to Dave Embrey for lending a hand this morning. I was certain the timing was out on the rebuilt engine but really struggling single handed. We ended up removing and rotating the distributor gears to get approximate static timing. Once started, after a few tense minutes that seemed like hours waiting for the oil light to go out it was fairly straight forward to set timing dynamically and tune up the carbs. A bit of fresh petrol helped too. Tomorrow's job is replacing the gearbox tunnel (need to drill the holes out) and getting the interior back in. Then a steady few hundred miles before retorquing the head and oil change. Happy days! Watch out for a write up in the courier! No way would I have got this far without support from TSSC Shropshire and the help on here - thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdennison Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Bit of a thread revival. I've put c. 350 miles on the new engine and all seems to be going well. Mainly sub 3.5k rpm with a couple of forays up to 4k. Anyway, I've read and been told that at this mileage I need to retorque the head. Not a big job .... but is this necessary? If you read back a few pages you'll see that I had a nut fail when I torqued the head first time and I don't want this to happen again. The nuts I'm now using are from a different supplier so should be ok but I'd rather leave alone if I can. If the answer is yes I do need to retorque, do I slacken off a fraction first before tightening of just tighten? Cheers folks James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Groves Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Yes it will need doing. Slacken off and re-torque in sequence. Then check Valve Clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy D Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Yes it does need to be done. Leaving it can cause premature head failure. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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