rogerguzzi Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 Hello All I am going to have a go at re veneering my dashboard this winter and change the guage layout. What I can not decieded on is the colour or wood type? I want a bit more colour and warmth than the standard English walnut but not the dark Burr walnut(to dark and to posh for a Spitfire in my opinion) I was thinking of some thing like this. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271953028821?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT or this(should be Saplele) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141593292276?var=440731338862 or this(should be Ash) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141593292276?var=440731338862 what has any one else used and photos please Roger
Steve C Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 Hi Roger I share your opinion about the darker aftermarket finishes like burl walnut - to me they just don't look right. Some tips from hard-won experience when I refinished mine: An old-fashioned sanding disc on a rubber pad on a drill proved the most effective way of removing the old finish, but the amount of white dust it generates is unreal. Prepare to emerge from your shed looking like a flour grader, and go through several dust masks! Take special care around the instrument holes when sanding, it is easy to damage the old veneer, which is really thin. Sure, you will be re-veneering it all, but a keyed, flat surface for gluing on the new one is what you want. I used four coats of yacht varnish, each flatted down and de-nibbed, before finishing the final one with T-cut, which will take any minor imperfections off the finished surface and leave a nice shine. Happy sanding! Steve C
Gnasha Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 i tried veneering my own dash, but couldn't get the finish i wanted, i ended up sending it away, i choose burr walnut. If you want any details Pm me and ill dig out the photos and the name of the company.
mishmosh Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 A belt sander gives a flatter surface and usually has a dust bag. Use a mask. Its a fairly easy job on a triumph as long as you have plenty of clamps. Dont use pva unless it is very waterproof ! Dont ask ....
rogerguzzi Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Posted August 14, 2015 Hello All I have been making a mock up of the middle part of the dash and here is the result! I am not fitting 2 temperature guages! a volt meter will be in lower position. I am not sure about the brake warning light? I may fit a round one in the centre. I think I may move the light switch to the right in place of rear hazzard switch and move that one down to bottom of dash. I am going to send for some veneer samples. Roger
dougbgt6 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Like it! How about fitting a duel temperature and oil gauge then you've got room for a vacuum gauge! A vacuum gauge is a wonderful thing, you can set the timing with it, you can set your mixture with it. My vacuum, recently, was dropping off, looked on line, air flow to the carbs! It was telling me my air filters needed changing! Plus do you really need a clock? Fit an ammeter. A volt meter and an ammeter tell you different things. Voltmeter tells you the condition of the battery. An ammeter tells you the condition of the alternator.
rogerguzzi Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Posted August 14, 2015 Hello doughgt6 Now you have got me thinking I could put the clock in the passenger side(you can never have enough guages even if you don't understand them) just look at aircraft? I know they have 2 sets but that would just be SILLY Roger
dougbgt6 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Indeed! There are never enough gauges! I put my oil, vacuum and ammeter on a panel mounted in the radio hole. Frustratingly I've not quite settled on where to put the battery condition. I don't know if your going to do this but the factory fitted gauges have a green tinge when lit. So before I fitted additional gauges I took them apart and put in green transparent film so they would look the same. What does the brake warning light do and how does it work? I need one!
rogerguzzi Posted August 15, 2015 Author Report Posted August 15, 2015 Hello Dougbgt6The brake warning light is fitted to the dual brake circuit cars, there is a valve with a piston in it that moves left or right if a circuit fails and this puts the light on via a switch mounted on it.I comes on when you turn the ignition on it is wired in parallel with the oil warning light or it series?I know this because mine came on some time ago while driving the car and I did not notice the oil warning light(bright day)and I have an oil pressure guage fitted.I think I will just put a red light in the middle of the lower guages.Roger ps I fitted green led's in the instruments as I found some of the green internal lenses were broken.
rogerguzzi Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Posted December 8, 2015 Hello All This is my modified dashboard I have yet to varnish it. I am going to use this. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151545279628?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT As you can see I have replaced the pull switches with rocker type and moved the light switch. It will not be to everybody's taste but I am pleased with the result. This is the veneer I bought http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kevasingo-Kevazingo-Veneer-REAL-WOOD-Sheet-1200mm-x-440mm-47-x-17-inches-/252143319329? Roger
rlubikey Posted December 8, 2015 Report Posted December 8, 2015 ... for *interior* furniture. Presumably not UV stable or ... ? Let us know how you get on Roger. Richard
rogerguzzi Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Posted December 8, 2015 Hello Richard I went by this article and another one I found on the web. http://www.frost.co.uk/how-do-i-re-veneer-my-cars-wood-trim and this one. http://www.crookedspireclassic.co.uk/page14.html Roger
Casper Posted December 8, 2015 Report Posted December 8, 2015 Presumably not UV stable or ... ? Some more info in another place: http://goo.gl/U5fprq C.
rlubikey Posted December 9, 2015 Report Posted December 9, 2015 Nice one guys, thank you. And yes, that is a pretty long-term test! Richard
rogerguzzi Posted December 9, 2015 Author Report Posted December 9, 2015 Hello Casper I have read the article in the link and I think I am 70 now so if it lasts 10+years it will do me? Roger
ludwig113 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 pick any veneer you like and remember to use a clear grain filler, this will make it much easier to obtain a smooth finish. i'm just about to do mine, its not too difficult, just take your time.
rogerguzzi Posted December 20, 2015 Author Report Posted December 20, 2015 Hello All Here is 3 photos of the dash now it is varnished a trial fitting to sort out wiring changes. I have yet to stain and varnish the steering wheel. I am pleased with the result it is not difficult just takes time. I have even fitted a small led to light up the heater controls. Roger
rogerguzzi Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Posted January 28, 2016 Hello All The Dashboard is all back in and working(a bit delayed as my poor mother passed away on 21st December) I am happy with the result but do not want to do it for a living(not that I am going to start again at 70!) I like the rocker switches in place of the pull type(not for the conkers set) Roger ps I may fit a lower output led in the vacuum gauge. and the 4 screws are to be replaced with I don't know what yet.
dougbgt6 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Roger, that looks fantastic! Rimmers do a screw and cap washer pack which looks like the right thing, they should be a sort of bronze colour. There are 20 of each in the pack as they are used on the tunnel and elsewhere. Bu it occurs to me you may not have countersunk the holes in the panel to accommodate the caps? Sorry to hear about your Mum, I've been up in Scotland with my Mum (93) for most of January.
John Bonnett Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 A really great job Roger. It looks fantastic and a credit to your skill and patience. I've just sent mine off to Chapman and Cliff. Defeatist or what?
rogerguzzi Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 Hello Doug & John I have put some flanged s/s screws(which I polished) in with some fibre washers under the head, I will find some clear ones or just make some out of plastic sheet. My Mom was 93 she used to say she had passed her sell by date. The steering wheel I bought for £30 at the TR register day to replace the 13" moto lita one and just stripped the old varnish off and stained a bit darker and used the same varnish as used on the dashboard and re polished the spokes. It has made the car nicer to drive and not so heavy when parking etc(triumph knew what they were doing) Roger
dougbgt6 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 .....passed her sell by date. That's exactly what my Mum says.
rogerguzzi Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 Hello Doug I think I am past my best before and use by date Roger
TomL Posted January 31, 2016 Report Posted January 31, 2016 Roger, The dash looks great! I like the colour of the illumination in the night-time photo. Nice touch to light the heater controls too. Tom
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