Pete Lewis Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Clutch withdrawl arm 132080 vitesse and gt6 The clip does very little when its assmbled with the static pressure from the slave , so it just holds the arm on the pivot post while its off the car, ie more use on a production line than any use on the car, untill you remove the slave but its easy to relocate it You cant remove the arm with box on car it wont fit through the opening. If you dont find a SH one dont worry overly about it , its not split which can happen to the spherical indent but do just undo the small nuts and just pull the od off to check the cam, five minutes and you will know Leave the forward adaptor hsg bolted to the box, the od may need a little pry to break the joint. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted October 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Interesting, thanks. I didn't think the fracture looked fresh so it may well have been done for quite some time. I'll get that number written down in my 'useful stuff' notebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted October 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 OD split from gbox. Mmm. Doesn't seem to be a cam in there at all! I guess the photo shows the slot for the woodruff key but definitely no cam and definitely didn't drop anything on the floor when I separated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Ha ha now thats a extreme cock up cam is held on with a wire circlip all missing Now do I get a brownie point , a camless OD.... thats quite novel in the rouges gallery There should be a sprung flat circlip fitted into a groove in the splines guess that's also done a runner So I think you have located the base problem....trouble is what else has been ommitted ???? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 I had the same on a gearbox. It was a recon box, and I reckon it came without the cam, and the PO just popped the OD on and it just never worked, so may be more common than you think! Or was. Who knows, but at least it is an easy fix. Once a cam is located! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 You need 513216 cam 137308circlip wkn304 woodruff key If you dont rotate the coupling the od should pop on fairly easy, set the cam to its lowest point so the roller runs up onto the cam If it jibs at dropping get two big screwdrivers and engage under the two plates you can see , gently lever them to open the cone clutch and Everthing rotates and aligns , keep, fingers out , far easier than poking around down the shaft bore to align the hubs with a long thin screwdriver and torch. Now you can run a test on the lathe and see if oil spurts out the top valve Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted October 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 A brownie point? I think you get the whole damn brownie! Part numbers too. You spoil me. All ordered and should be here soon. Fingers crossed it wasn't omitted for a reason. I simply don't know what I'd do without the internet, you lot and MrsW's bank card. Edit : I've just been reminded that brownie isn't the cake it's the girl guide. So that just sounded a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 i was never a GG or a boy scout, I did get a certificate in Bee keeping , C &G full tech certificate and 42 yrs in truck manufacturing quailty audit and warranty problems solving dont tell Doug !!! its normally omitted in the haste to rebuild the gearbox, , as clive says recons come without it. so the odd serial number might steer the reasoning in that direction. ive come across a good few gearboxes rebuilt with £££s spent and ignored the obvious to end up a disaster often cured for peanuts ... glad we can help, next time do the easy first , i said cam 7 posts in Ha !! can we all use Mrs W bank card sounds a good call lucky you Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 You missed out playing the cymbals and your amateur dentistry. "Problem solving" could be useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 its all in the mind , it was triangles not cymbals , ( thank god it was never them blo**y recorders) the only teeth ive worked on were on gear cutting or either shaping. hobing or , lapping in my apprentice piecework days, later on examining for failure analysis and audits for plant performance figures . trust me i know nufing Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 I can't seem to find a part# for the gasket between the bell housing and the engine? Is there one because the gbox I got back from the gargage doesn't show any signs of there being one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, ShaunW said: I can't seem to find a part# for the gasket between the bell housing and the engine? Is there one because the gbox I got back from the gargage doesn't show any signs of there being one. There's not one shown in the GT6 parts book that I can see and can't think why there would be one as you're not in need of a fluid seal here. Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 There is no gasket bell hsg to engine back plate, its metal to metal and nothing to leak so no joint is needed , there is a gasket bell hsg to gearbox case or gear oil will leak out I use a loctite 574 for all joints which need sealing , its the best stuff , we tested it for some time on production , it works On hard face joints and doesnt need a gasket Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Thanks Pete. Got my cam today I know you've seen one before but perhaps some others might not have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Dont forget the cam needs to be on its lowest stroke when refitting the unit, as the roller has to ride up the edge of the cam Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted November 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 The cam has got a shoulder on one side, I guess this side faces the OD to help to ease it on to the roller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 yes D types have chamfer its not found on J types. you cant remove the pump spring as the pump body is held in place by a grub screw inserted through the mating halves face , ie inaccessible until you strip the unit down just care aligning the lesser ramp to ge tthe roller to pop over , and if it all comes to a stop an inch away from fitting lift/pry the two steel bars to open the clutch and it will drop on clunk!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted November 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Any special gasket type and sealant for the gbox/OD union? I usually make my own from various gasket papers rather than get stung paying £1 for a gasket and £5 on the postage. The one that was in there was quite thick which seemed odd for a high pressure situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 The round gasket between adaptor case and main body can be a thicker than normal simple paper one Most are now just paper I said earlier I recomend loctite 574 for any faced joints wherever they are used extensively on out gearbox production and worked better than any others trialed. Ther is no pressure inside the box or OD only splash, the pressuremis contained within the valves and pump Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynebaby Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Pete, Sorry to back track on this thread a bit but I'm considering moving the anti-rotation pin in my clutch release bearing carrier as you suggested. Do you know if I'm correct in assuming this is a 1/16" x 11/16" roll pin? Cheers Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Sorry not sure but any pin will work, eg split pin I does not take huge loads , on mine I drifted the old out and refitted in a new hole Diameter is .....use what youve got , bigger wont hurt. Later design just had a dimple whacked in the groove ..so another idea Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynebaby Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Thanks Pete, Bigger might not be a bad idea. The pin in mine has bowed over the years. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunW Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Getting there. This should be easier to change next time. I hope it's not me needing to, but one day I think someone will appreciate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Looks familiar! ? Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 This is what happens when you read the Courier Ha !! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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